News Report | Ramola D | July 30, 2026
Ralph Hassall, former MI6 Intelligence, reveals on “Redacted”/July 27, 2026 with journalist Clayton Morris and investigator Jesse Beltran that he was subjected via implant and otherwise to numerous brain communications technologies which Intelligence agents and assets apparently use for shadow work today, and which hundreds of thousands of people have been reporting as being used on them. He also speaks of remote electromagnetic sensing, microwave guns, microwave phase interferometry, surveillance tools and targeting, multiplexing of signals, sophisticated antenna systems, complex control circuitry, brain link signaling, machine learning, artificial intelligence, brain reading, Havana Syndrome and the use of directed-energy weapons and nanotechnology on people.
Commenting on recently-deceased former CIA chief James Wolsey’s family’s claim that he had long suffered DEW attack in “Havana Syndrome,” Rafe commented: “Well, I take those claims extremely seriously and I think they’re likely true and he wouldn’t be the first very senior intelligence officer to have succumbed to illnesses that have been claimed to be associated with Havana syndrome.”
Non-consensual experimentation, says Jesse Beltran, was made legal on minimal-risk principles in Section 3024 of the 21st Century Cares Act–but is the use of DEWs on people minimal-risk?
Jesse Beltran also reports people’s lives are being destroyed as they are falsely herded into the Mental Health industry, as reported recently at Family Disbelief, Denial, Rejection and False Condemnation–as Mentally Ill–the Reporters of AP-DEW and Neuro Crimes Against Humanity Leads to Isolation & Increased Abuse.
Links to the video at Youtube and the transcript are below.
Chapter 1: Show introduction
Clayton: Well, welcome to the show. Was the head of the CIA killed from Havana syndrome?
James Wolsey just died. His family claims Havana syndrome was the heart of it and he suffered complications from it and that’s why he passed away. This is an astonishing claim. And all of this is happening just as one of Britain’s former intelligence assets came forward claiming he was used in secretive experiments involving implantable nanotechnology, covert communications, and technologiesthat allegedly left him permanently changed. So today we’re joined by Rafe Hassel, a former MI6 intelligence asset whistleblower who says he was subjected to covert human experimentation during his work with British intelligence. His claims touch on everything from advanced nanotechnology, alleged brain-to-brain communication systems all the way up to Havana syndrome, which is the the termof the day apparently with the death of James Wolsey. Also, directed energy weapons and the question of whether governments have crossed ethical lines in the pursuit of this secret technology. Joining him is researcher and friend of the show Jesse Beltron who has spent years documenting these allegations and the growing body of evidence surrounding them including Havana syndrome. So today we’re going to hear Hassel’s story and examine the evidence behind these extraordinary claims and of course the big breaking news of the day. welcome to both of you gentlemen.
Rafe: Thank you Clayton. It’s a pleasure. Thank you for having us on.
Clayton: Yeah. So Rafe, I mean I just maybe get your response to the news that we’ve just learned obviously about James Wolsey, the head of the CIA and the family’s claims of Havana syndrome.
Rafe: Well, I take those claims extremely seriously and I think they’re likely true and he wouldn’t be the first very senior intelligence officer to have succumbed to illnesses that have been claimed to be associated with Havana syndrome. The whole concept or practice of so-called microwave diplomacy since the 1970s has had fallout. It has had casualties ranging from very high ranking intelligence and state department officials working in in that case in Russia. they came down with leukemia and they have maintained although it was never fully accepted that this was to do with exposure to microwave radiation while in post. I think what has happened now is that well we have a claim from a very senior member of the intelligence establishment who has now unfortunately succumbed to their injuries and you know it’s a continuation of the same trend and I think there is no reason or certainly I don’t have any reason to doubt that claim at all.
Clayton: Jesse your thoughts?
Jesse: Yeah well this is really really front and and center right now. obviously I’ve been covering this topic since 2010 and our US government has denied that this affliction, Havana syndrome, AHIS. Back then in 2010 we called it electronic terrorism. they are denying that this is happening to United States civilians. They’re only claiming that this is happening to federal employees and their family members. But they have to remember that their family members are civilians as well. they are they are now offering compensation. I think over$3 million has been paid out now to Havana Syndrome federal employees who had claims that they’ve been afflicted by this. But the the bigger story here is, you know, who’s doing it? Is it still going on? and is this a continuation of the MK Ultra experiences? And I claim under the data that I’ve collected over the last 20 years that it’s all of the above.
Clayton:Jesse, how did you learn about Rafe’s story?
Jesse: Yeah. Well, when I did my first interview with you, Clayton, you know, that had I mean it’s seen been seen over a million times now. Rafe saw me in that interview and he mentioned to me that for the first time he had heard someone who very methodically explained the signs and symptoms and the methodology that goes around this phenomenon. And then he had reached out to my staff and quite frankly when I heard that Rafe was an MI6 whistleblower, Oxford educated GS15 clearance just had extensive experience in overseas and he can expound upon that. And we did some factchecking on on Rafe because it just seemed too good to be true. And to our astonishment everything that Rafe has shared we were able to verify and that’s how Rafe reached out to me and we immediately hopped on a plane within the next week and Rafe agreed to allow us to interview him and he can explain what he went through pretty succinctly and his story is phenomenal and we he really is a diamond in the rough. He’s one of the rare whistleblowers that the world needs so that the world understands where technology is today and the pros and cons to it because he has a different perspective where the clients that I see would all claim that this is a very negative experience. Rafe has mixed feelings about it and I’ll let him expound upon that.
Clayton: All right, we’re going to pause the show for just a second. We’ll get back to our interview in just a second. But first, a paid advertisement from our friends at Rumble Wallet….
Clayton: [music] Now, back to the interview. Rafe. Yeah. I just wanted to sort of set the stage there with Jesse on how you guys came to meet after seeing our show. Um, why did you decide to come forward and maybe you can just–I’ll give you the floor and you can just maybe tell us why you decided to come forward.
Rafe: It’s a really good question and I think there was a certain degree of impulse impulsiveness about it. I listened to your conversation. I heard Jesse speak and I understood that this was a yeah someone who had studied this phenomenon to a great extent and had what I’ve come to learn is and I had an intuition about his unparalleled experience dealing with dealing with literally thousands of people. I from from a technical perspective as well as a sort of h human human one and I knew that certainly a percentage who could put a figure on it of those people that he was working with would have been bonafide experiences or experiences rather of some of the effects and some of the tools and techniques that I had was aware of and had used and had experience of and that this was someone who yeah certainly I could have a conversation with and I you know Jesse uses the term whistleblower but I’m not really whistleblowing from an organization I’m whistleblowing about a a practice or let me say a set of activities that is undertaken by people who are in my position and I have views on that and certainly I wanted to give Jesse what information that I could that might assist him from my position in terms of someone who is familiar with the things that he’s he’s documenting and talking about in his day-to-day role.
Clayton: So maybe we could be specific for our audience that may have missed our earlier interview. We could talk about specifics. What things specifically were you saying, “These people were afflicted by and I know what they’re going through because I was using it at the agency or I was using it at MI6 or we were trained
Clayton: Like, what things stood out to you that like lit a light bulb moment for you?
Rafe: Gosh, I’d have to look back at the interview. I mean, I I would be be misrepresenting the truth if I could remember a specific thing. It probably was the issue of directed energy weapons which is something that is well let me say the less pleasant side of the whole technology. It is also by far and away the most dangerous. It’s lethal and it’s incapacitative.
Clayton: And I think Can you just talk about the mechanisms of that? I’m sorry. This is your world and for the lay person. Sure. Are we talking about a machine? Are we talking about nanop particles? Are we talking about medicines? How can you maybe describe the type of directed energy weapons that you were familiar with? And this this when you heard it in Jesse’s interview, you said, “Wow, I know I know that.”
Rafe: Yeah. Well, they are they’re they basically fall into two two categories as far as I’m concerned. but they both both involve the same idea which is remote action using electronic means. So that would be to use the electromagnetic spectrum. It would be to use elementary particles in a particle beam. It would be to use infrasound, infrasound or any other tool or technique that is not u visibly uh obvious but is still has a physical effect. And if you use it in a high enough intensity or power setting that can then have impacts on human on the human biology. And so if you can talk about it from one side, you have surveillance tools and techniques that have traditionally relied on, you know, radio broadcasts for once of a better word, but that’s exactly the same phenomena, but that can be dialed up and dialed down and so that can be repurposed for directed energy effects. But then you have weapons and that’s why they’re called directed energy weapons because they are they designed to in fact they range from the whole spectrum from highly lethal to temporarily incapacitating like you might find in an LRAD. And so where I’m interested in this or where I have experience is on the clandestine use of these tools to enhance or to support intelligence work and that’s done in the shadows. It’s designed to be to have to leave no trace. It’s designed to blend in with the background noise in inverted commas and that is what Jesse is dealing with. you know we are talking about people who are have been or claiming to have been attacked by directed energy and how you are able to understand what it is precisely that they’ve been dealing with and how you disagregate that from other things. That’s where I thought I might be able to help Jesse with because I could explain how I’ve seen it used, how I’ve seen it deployed and certainly he knew what to look for. So it was kind of another way to like support him in that. I mean I don’t know whether that’s fully answered your question Clayton but right I guess though yeah at the heart of it it’s multifaceted.
Clayton: So Jesse, are there specific applications where where Rafe was able to confirm what you had been researching to say this was a remotely accessed because he he he he mentioned a broad range of ideas there. Radio waves or you know something that’s not that could be triggered remotely, things that could be temporarily incapacitating someone all the way up to far more severe.
Jesse: Yeah. Well, Rafe really explained it well when we went there and did his original interview. He talked about the system being multifaceted and that really piqued my interest because I said well what do you mean by multifaceted and Rafe had ex explained to us how he had been on clandestine missions and he was basically told by his handlers or his superiors that he was going to like this and and just accept it and you’re You’re going to you’re going to think this is pretty cool. I’m just I’m I’m making inferences at this point. and he can explain what that
Clayton: Yeah. And and maybe Ree, you can explain what that was about and and why you said it actually may have saved your life at times. Yeah.
Rafe:Well, that is true. But can I first say that both of you are much better at summarizing succinctly what I’ve been saying and that was very good, Clayton. I thought that you sort of were able to pick apart the kind of word salad that I’m delivering. Um, yeah. Sure.
Yeah. Rafe, can you can you talk about the multifaceted aspects of it? You talked about the the communication aspect of it. You talked about if you stepped out of line, didn’t follow protocol, what they would do. And then ultimately you already expressed about it could become lethal that you know you were basically you and your significant other were given cancer at the same time because of being exposed to this. So if you can explain to the audience if they can hear that from you, I think that’s important. 19 minutes, 58 secondsOkay. Well, I mean I think I then will explain because I think but the best way is to say that there are two types really like two main categories. One is the surveillance tools [sighs] which rely on yeah remote electromagnetic communications sensing and interpretation of signals data that’s basically coming from a human being. it’s one it is relatively easy to provide a signal. It’s a lot more challenging to get a signal back. once you can achieve that then you have a two-way multipplexing uh communication system and that that itself has you know various power and signal signaling requirements and that this tool itself it can be repurposed to cause discomfort pain and
I’m sorry just to be clear this is omething when you worked for the agent. Is this something they injected into you?Something that you No.
So, I was provided with a dental implant back in 2013, the summer summer of that year. against my knowledge and that has yeah since been identified. But at the at the time it was done without my knowledge or consent. And then in 2016 that was it was made clear to me that this was the case and that this device could be used for two-way communications. And up until that point, I’d been using other means of um communicating with handlers with communicating with other covert human intelligence sources both sort of foreign, domestic and had been yeah providing information very through more traditional inverted commerce ways like electronic Dropbox and so on and electronic drops so they could just so like so no like you remember General Petraeus that he was communicating with his I I want to say I I don’t know who he was actually communicating with but they’re writing emails in Gmail you know he would make a draft she would sign into the same account they would read the information delete the information that is effectively an electronic Dropbox box. So, it’s designed to circumvent traditional means of communications. You didn’t have to send anything in the traditional sense and but yet you could still send and receive information in a covert manner. Well, that’s what they had hoped. I mean, the idea is the same. 23 minutes, 9 secondsSo, using email or using any other means. so when when I talk about an electronic Dropbox that could range from 23 minutes, 16 secondsanything typically typically using email but to unused accounts or 23 minutes, 25 secondsduplicated accounts and so on. but in the summer of 2016, 23 minutes, 33 secondsI was encouraged let’s use that word to get off these methods 23 minutes, 41 seconds for yeah operational reasons. It then became obvious with hindsight but I didn’t understand at the time and that’s 23 minutes, 49 secondswhen the method of methods of communication were introduced to me and that took several months. It wasn’t 23 minutes, 58 secondssomething that, you know, you can just switch on just like that and expect someone to deal with it. It’s an incredibly invasive 24 minutes, 7 secondsand wholly occupying mentally. 24 minutes, 12 secondsSo, how do can you talk about how you experience it? I mean, is it almost like voice voices in your head? Are you 24 minutes, 22 secondssynthetic telepathy is what he’s describing. Yeah. [clears throat] Yeah. I mean synthetic telepathy. 24 minutes, 28 secondsYes. It’s like a you know it’s you know if you are receiving an instruction it would be something that is like it’s a 24 minutes, 36 secondsit’s a voice that kind of appears in your head and there’s it’s a very 24 minutes, 43 secondsstrange strange phenomenon and as you know the first time it happened I was I was shocked I was kind scandalized I 24 minutes, 53 secondsthink would be a good word. but they that but because of this and my reluctance to have the commands given to 25 minutes, 1 secondme that in that way that wasn’t used very often at all and other methods 25 minutes, 10 secondswere were used but the idea that it could be used was were was always available to me. I mean, I I can tell 25 minutes, 20 secondsyou it’s it really is not it’s not something that a person a human being is designed for. 25 minutes, 28 secondsYou know, we are social creatures. We have evolved genetically over millennia. 25 minutes, 33 secondsWe we’re not designed to have this kind of well, as far as I know, you know, we’re not designed to to communicate in 25 minutes, 43 secondsthis manner. And the idea that your one’s internal monologue or your thoughts or particularly my thoughts, my 25 minutes, 50 secondsinternal monologue could be understood and have information 25 minutes, 57 secondsextracted from that. Whether or not I liked it is another unbelievably 26 minutes, 3 seconds what’s the word? The word I use is a panopticon. You know, you have literally nowhere to hide. you have nowhere you 26 minutes, 13 secondscan seek sort of privacy. I think that’s the end that yeah that I think that’s the best way to put it is the end of end 26 minutes, 20 secondsof all notion of privacy that you may have you know range from your reactions to meeting people you know maybe you’ve see 26 minutes, 30 secondssomeone you think they’re attractive or you think the opposite you know these those kind of things are no longer 26 minutes, 38 secondsthings that you can keep to yourself it’s all there for the taking and because of that it has an Yeah, 26 minutes, 46 secondsthe impact psychologically is well, let me say devastating. And I read back to some of my communications which I 26 minutes, 55 secondssubmitted to the invest in investigatory powers tribunal quite recently actually. I looked 27 minutes, 2 secondsthrough at some of the some of the communications at the time and you know I I was writing at that time I don’t know how I’m going to get over this. 27 minutes, 12 secondsThis is like this is psychologically absolutely devastating. I can’t see how 27 minutes, 19 secondsI will ever recover actually because but then in order to sort of like as I say 27 minutes, 27 secondsit was introduced a bit like boiling a frog in water. I mean, not everything was introduced at once and it kind of 27 minutes, 35 secondswas sort of go along and then there’d be like a a jump in, you know, exposure to something new until eventually, you know, I was fully kitted out with it. 27 minutes, 46 secondsBut it took months and it required a support structure around me of covert human 27 minutes, 56 secondsintelligence sources who were in one way or another able to support me through that 28 minutes, 2 secondsand that was well it wouldn’t have been possible otherwise and then yeah 28 minutes, 10 secondsso very difficult but because there was a threat threat of sanction at any time you know like if someone is going through that in 28 minutes, 18 secondspreparation for something that’s upcoming and there is there is a real risk and I acknowledge it. I acknowledge 28 minutes, 26 secondsit now. There’s a real risk that person is going to go into a flat spin and fall apart and you have to be disciplinarian. 28 minutes, 37 secondsLet me say you you otherwise this person’s going to go off the rails. I [laughter] nearly I nearly went off the rails. And 28 minutes, 45 secondsdid you then remove this implant? I mean, when you were starting to when you were confiding in other people and you you found out that this was because of 28 minutes, 53 secondsthis dental implant that you were, you know, getting these messages and did you have it removed? Did you try to do it covertly? What did you do? 29 minutes, 1 secondNo. Such a thing would have been absolutely unthinkable because the way the the the equipment operates is in 29 minutes, 11 secondsbasically in in real time and you know the idea that I could even think of 29 minutes, 18 secondsreporting it to for example to the police was totally off the table. you know, I wasn’t allowed to go within a 29 minutes, 26 secondscertain amount of, you know, certain radius of of a police station and especially in in the early days. And 29 minutes, 35 secondsthen if if I even, you know, moved in that direction, it would be made very clear to me that, you know, you you’re not going in there, mate. 29 minutes, 44 secondsAnd so, yeah. 29 minutes, 45 secondsCan you just give me an example? Well, I mean, it’s so it’s mind-blowing, but if you’re so you’re out on a case, you’re dealing with, you know, you’ve got a a source or 29 minutes, 53 secondssomething like that you’re that you’re dealing with as in a in a in the field, so to speak. 30 minutesHow can you give me the application of how it might be used? Would you be sitting there interacting with a a confidential source or something like 30 minutes, 8 secondsthat and suddenly you’re receiving sort of messages from from headquarters? 30 minutes, 13 secondsNot really. It was mainly used to move from one place to another to and in the cases where my 30 minutes, 23 secondsbasic communication system like I tried to keep things as as normal as possible you know so that would be a mobile phone 30 minutes, 32 secondsto most people. and so every opportunity I had would be done the 30 minutes, 38 secondstraditional way. And so the only reasons that I would really be leaning into that 30 minutes, 44 secondssystem, and I did, would be when my means of communication completely went down. So I’d run out of batteries. I was 30 minutes, 53 secondsfar away from being able to resolve that situation. I needed to move from one place to another. it wasn’t entirely clear to me where I should be heading to 31 minutes, 2 secondsor there was a priority that absolutely needed to be dealt with and that I had to make make myself available in such 31 minutes, 10 secondsand such a location to do such and such a job. 31 minutes, 14 secondsAnd they would I I’m just sort of picturing this as a lay person. There’s somebody in a booth somewhere almost like a skiff 31 minutes, 22 secondswith a with with a communications box and they just press the the RAF button and they deliver like an audio message 31 minutes, 31 secondsto you or is it like some sort of a textbased message that you’re able to understand that I need to leave here now? 31 minutes, 37 secondsNo, I think there would be I I would have already been generally appraised of what I needed to do and so that you know 31 minutes, 48 secondsit would be quite obvious what I was thinking at any moment point in time. 31 minutes, 53 secondsAnd so, you know, the the best route with me was always to kind of nudge me in one way or another. And as I 32 minutesmentioned to to Jesse before that could be the use of in fact was the use of um 32 minutes, 8 secondslike I want to say a jingle but that’s just the wrong word like clips clips of music or like a refrain from something 32 minutes, 16 secondslike that was very obvious that this was the link and that was where I you know 32 minutes, 24 secondsso I was responding to your thoughts like you’re not speaking out loud you’re just thinking something. I’m kind of stuck in this situation. 32 minutes, 32 secondsI’m not quite sure if I should go right or right or left. 32 minutes, 35 secondsIt’s not Yeah. I mean, the thing is like there there was there was a degree of of uncertainty like in this approach. I 32 minutes, 43 secondsIt’s not certainly like 10 years ago or you know we’re talking about when I 32 minutes, 51 secondswas was doing this was between 2016 to 2018. 32 minutes, 55 secondsIn the beginning, it was a bit like hit and miss. I’ve got to say it wasn’t always like they weren’t picking up everything that I was thinking at all. 33 minutes, 5 secondsYou know, they would make mistakes and I can actually document that. And in fact, I’ve provided evidence of that to the to 33 minutes, 12 secondsthis tribunal. It wasn’t completely cut and dry that absolutely everything. So there was a degree of um 33 minutes, 21 secondserror let me say involved in that. I generally knew when I went left the 33 minutes, 27 secondshouse or left the house of like a covert intelligence source I I generally knew what it was I needed to do. There 33 minutes, 36 secondsmight be a bit of uncertainty here and there about how I needed to get there. 33 minutes, 41 secondsAnd over time you build up a kind of store of light motifs. I I I don’t don’t 33 minutes, 50 secondsreally know the word. It’s it’s an very strange corner of tradecraft that 33 minutes, 59 secondsyou can provide an image or provide a a jingle or perhaps some other you know a 34 minutes, 6 secondssound and that would like be associated with something or that that would be the 34 minutes, 14 secondsthe signal let me say a signal would be the best the best way to describe it. I mean, that would be the traditional way to describe it. Um, to do X or Y. 34 minutes, 26 secondsJesse, am I missing anything? 34 minutes, 27 secondsReceive. Sorry. Don’t expect to receive like really detailed detailed. 34 minutes, 33 secondsYeah. I just I’m just shocked by the idea that you Well, I’m just shocked by the idea that they could sort of read your thoughts, you know, that they they could read your 34 minutes, 40 secondsthoughts and it started out not very well and then it progressed to a point when they were able to more readily read your thoughts over time. 34 minutes, 49 secondsUm, yeah. Yeah. I think that was the I think that was the technology though. I like to I don’t know. I mean, I I’d be they got better at what they were doing. 35 minutesI think that that was it. And I would sometimes notice like a change and it was like you’ve had a software upgrade somewhere along the line and yeah, it’s 35 minutes, 9 secondsgot noticeably better. It’s uh, you know, a lot the error rate is dropping and um, yeah. 35 minutes, 17 secondsYeah. Jesse, your thoughts? I mean, did I miss something there? I’m just, you have to, you know, you guys again swim in this for the last, you know, many, many 35 minutes, 25 secondsdecades. So, for me as a lay person, learning that these intelligence agencies would implant something in a dental capacity without your without your knowledge. 35 minutes, 36 secondsYou had no knowledge of it. And then to find out that they’re able to start to read your thoughts and guide you as an intelligence asset is stunning to me. So 35 minutes, 44 secondsJesse, I don’t know, just your thoughts on Yeah. No. Well, you know, it’s very typical. 35 minutes, 49 secondsYou know, I’ve been covering this, like I said, for since 2010, and I’m pretty verse on on the topic. And what he is 35 minutes, 57 secondsdescribing is the typical synthetic telepathy that a lot of the experiencers talk about where your your thoughts um 36 minutes, 6 secondswhat you see everything that you’re experiencing in your environment is 36 minutes, 12 secondsbeing monitored and captured through this RF Havana syndrome uh 36 minutes, 21 secondsphenomenon. And you know what are we talking about? We’re really talking about how the MK Ultra phenomenon has 36 minutes, 31 secondsbasically accelerated with technology on steroids. 36 minutes, 37 secondsyou know, back in the MK Ultra days where they were doing electrical shock therapy, drug therapies, 36 minutes, 45 secondsuh, utilizing hypnosis, which has been significantly covered up because the predominance 36 minutes, 52 secondsof hypnosis in getting people to do things that they would not normally do against their moral compass has been 37 minutes, 1 secondthe ultimate carrot that most intelligence agencies government agencies, military agencies 37 minutes, 9 secondshave been seeking and MK Ultra developed into 150 sub projects that we’re aware of. It could be more. And on June 30th, 37 minutes, 19 secondsAnapolina Luna, they held a hearing on whether or not MK Ultra did happen 37 minutes, 26 secondsand is it still going on? And what was interesting in that hearing is that they made inferences. many of the the 37 minutes, 36 secondsparticipants there were questioning the witnesses and they were making inferences about RF emissions directed 37 minutes, 45 secondsenergy weapons. So they are aware that this is happening and what what Rafe is 37 minutes, 52 secondsdescribing is how intrusive and cognitively this can be to someone. In 37 minutes, 58 secondsfact, um, in in Ra’s initial interview, he eloquently expressed how it pissed 38 minutes, 5 secondshim off and he demanded that they stop communicating with that him that way and then he wanted to go back to traditional 38 minutes, 13 secondsmeans like the electronic dropboxes, the email type scenarios. Um, and so 38 minutes, 21 secondsthat that was quite striking because he he had leverage. He has a unique skill 38 minutes, 27 secondsset that most humans do not because if I think if he did not have that skill set of being in in the magnetometry field uh 38 minutes, 36 secondsand his expertise they probably would have just left the system go and and he 38 minutes, 44 secondsmay not be speaking to us today. That’s that’s my opinion but that is exactly what he’s talking about. Now when we 38 minutes, 51 secondstalk about multiaceted you know the communication synthetic telepathy aspect of it we we just covered then if you get out of line he was talking about they’ll 39 minutesturn it up a little bit and it becomes a torture device. That is exactly what every victim out there that I that comes 39 minutes, 8 secondsto me expresses that this is a 24/7 365 day a year torture. And not only is that happening 39 minutes, 18 secondshere in the United States, I get calls for help all over the globe at this time. And then ultimately, we now know that it can be a a lethal weapon. 39 minutes, 30 seconds we know what happened down in V Venezuela. President Trump said they used the discombobulator and he probably 39 minutes, 39 secondsshouldn’t have talked about it, but he slipped up and it brought attention to that to what was that? They were they’re specifically talking about Rafe is 39 minutes, 47 secondsdescribing directed energy pulse beam frequencies and this is why it’s a multiaceted 39 minutes, 56 secondssystem. Could I ask you the people that you’re talking about that have t, you know, talked about the 247 torture, 40 minutes, 3 secondsum, do they have some sort of an implant that like like Rafe has or is this something that they’re able to do remotely from 100 yards away, 200 yards 40 minutes, 12 secondsaway, even miles away on a regular basis? Like, you know, I’ve talked to CIA whistleblowers who’ve obviously see vans sort of just parked outside of 40 minutes, 20 secondstheir home with directed energy weapons sort of aimed right at them. So, can you talk about that piece of it? 40 minutes, 29 secondsYeah, exactly. Well, it’s a it’s a very good question and it’s important that everyone watching understands what what you’re referring to. In my personal 40 minutes, 38 secondsopinion, you know, on May 8th of 2024, Colonel Greg Egging, retired Colonel Greg Egging gave testimony that indeed 40 minutes, 47 secondsthat this phenomenon is happening here on our homeland, not only to the best of our best in the FBI, CIA, but we now know that it’s happening to 40 minutes, 55 secondscongressional members. Um, and this is he he decides on the slow duration, long-term exposure as being a slow kill. 41 minutes, 5 secondsThe system is designed to make a person look like they are crazy. Okay. Now, um 41 minutes, 12 secondsin Rafe’s case, he does have that documentation of of that dental implant, 41 minutes, 19 secondsbut when I was there, we did test him and we were able to show that there is a 41 minutes, 28 secondsvisual frequency that we can show on a graph that is emitting from his person. 41 minutes, 33 seconds we also used what was called a nonlinear junction detection which is a type of device that checks for silicon 41 minutes, 41 secondsharmonics. Now silicon is an every electronic semiconductor out there that 41 minutes, 47 secondsis made. Now this back prior to the pandemic 41 minutes, 53 seconds I would test people and quite often if they were not symptomatic they would test negative 42 minutes, 1 secondand all of my victims who were symptomatic did test positive. Now what 42 minutes, 8 secondsis happening post pandemic everyone is testing positive for a semiconductive 42 minutes, 16 secondsharmonic. What does that mean? We know that a lot of the nanotech that is that was now being proven that was in 42 minutes, 23 secondsthe injections is there this nanotech nano robots 42 minutes, 32 secondswhatever you want to call it. They’re one 2,000 times the width of a hair. 42 minutes, 35 secondsThey’re self assembling, self-replicating. They cross the bloodb brain barrier and they have they contain graphine and they contain 42 minutes, 45 secondssilicon which are amplifiers. So the ampl the amplification of signals to receive and transmit are enhanced. So I 42 minutes, 54 secondshave taken people two two miles down into granite caverns in Jackson California and we would test to see if 43 minutes, 3 secondsthere were still signal detections and even deep down 2 miles down in under granite we were still detecting that. 43 minutes, 12 secondsThe bottom line is that no matter where you go on the planet, if you have been turned on in this system, you cannot 43 minutes, 19 secondsescape that signal. Um, I recently was down in California. I was hired by a 43 minutes, 26 secondsclient because he had created a lawsuit, sued his perpetrators, and he 43 minutes, 34 secondsactually won, but he believed that it was happening again. And so he wanted me to come down and test his environment to see whether 43 minutes, 42 secondsor not I could find anything. And to my surprise, we were documenting pulseed 43 minutes, 50 seconds microwave emissions and which were predominantly strongest up in the 43 minutes, 57 secondsupper levels of his home. so what he’s experiencing now is exactly that. 44 minutes, 3 secondsUm, and and that is that is that is where we’re at today. 44 minutes, 10 secondsUltimately, we we now know all the white papers are out, the scientific studies are out. We know that basically there 44 minutes, 18 secondswas a Trojan horse and the entire human species has been duped. You have been nonconsensually 44 minutes, 25 secondsexperimented on and basically infiltrated with this type of technology. 44 minutes, 33 secondsNow the problem is is that this is completely legal to do under the 21st century cures act under President Obama 44 minutes, 42 secondsunder section 3024. It is legal to experiment on US citizens as long as it doesn’t exceed minimal risk criteria. So 44 minutes, 51 secondsthe question is what is minimal risk criteria? And the answer to that is nothing that doesn’t happen in normal everyday life. 45 minutesDoes death happen in normal everyday life? And the answer is yes. And you have the fox basically governing the hen 45 minutes, 8 secondshouse. And all that data that they are collecting under quote unquote experimentation is protected by national security 45 minutes, 16 secondsprotocols. Even if you did a foyer request, you’re not going to be able to obtain that information because they’ll claim national security. 45 minutes, 27 secondsBut we’re hopeful if Paulina Luna is sincere and we’re not just going to say 45 minutes, 34 secondsyes, we’ve proven that MK Ultra happened in the past and and really what needs to happen is they need to bring witnesses 45 minutes, 44 secondswho are experiencers in this. I will say this, I have the world’s largest 45 minutes, 50 secondsindependent database on Havana syndrome victims, AHI victims, electronic terrorism, whatever you want to call it, 45 minutes, 58 secondsit’s all the same thing. And I’m a master hypnotist for one reason. Because I wanted to understand 46 minutes, 7 secondsh how people with million-dollar businesses and educations, PhDs, doctors, lawyers, attorneys, judges, you name it, every 46 minutes, 16 secondsspectr of life has come to me asking for help. How do we fight this? And these very intelligent people, their 46 minutes, 24 secondslives were being destroyed mainly because they were voicing to the world what was happening to them. And it was by design. They were being isolated. 46 minutes, 37 secondsTheir licenses were being taken away. 46 minutes, 39 secondsDoctors were not being allowed to touch patients anymore. Even though I knew they weren’t crazy, what they were suffering was legitimate. Um, but they 46 minutes, 48 secondswere all being railroaded into the mental health industry, force medicated, force institutionalized 46 minutes, 55 secondsor put through if it was a medical board under rigorous rigorous just um 47 minutes, 3 secondsundeserved scrutiny and made to just do things that a normal person should never. And these 47 minutes, 11 secondsmedical boards basically there’s nothing you can do against them legally and and that is the problem. That is the dynamics that we’re dealing with. 47 minutes, 22 secondsUnfortunately, our health system has been weaponized against us. 47 minutes, 27 seconds the Havana syndrome exists. You can’t get away from that signal no matter where you go. And it’s time that people start waking up. It’s time that our 47 minutes, 36 secondsofficials that we hire, we pay for our tax dollars, start representing us and we need to band together and stop this 47 minutes, 43 secondsdivide and conquer and and really hand in hand bind together to take our power back. Well, let’s pause the interview 47 minutes, 51 secondsfor a minute. We’ll get right back to it. But first, I’ve taken supplements for years and one of the most frustrating things I’ve known is how much of what you’re taking might be flushing straight through your body. 48 minutes, 1 secondyou’re literally like peeing it out, wasting money in the process. So, when I heard about the absorption company, I had to try them. 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Uh, you talked about obviously the basic 49 minutes, 53 secondslevel of communications with this dental implant, but then obviously Jesse mentioned cancer and you and your wife simultaneously. So, was there a point at 50 minutes, 1 secondwhich I don’t want to say you went rogue, but you went in an opposite direction and they decided to pull you back through this torture? 50 minutes, 10 secondsNo. No. I actually it was was part of the job description and that was that 50 minutes, 17 secondsthere I call it 21st century war driving. I don’t know if you know what that is but there used to be with the advent of wireless networks. 50 minutes, 28 secondsPeople would go around to try and find network vulnerabilities. You’d set up basically a a you know a wireless uh 50 minutes, 36 secondsrouter detector on your car. You drive around. You would so you know basically soak up as many wireless networks as you 50 minutes, 44 secondscould and find passwords which were easy to crack. You’d then make that data available. people would take advantage, 50 minutes, 51 secondsset up botn nets, whatever. You know, it was a kind of it it was a practice by people who were interested, but it was 51 minutesalso done routinely by the intelligence services because it’s an absolute must to be able to understand all aspects of 51 minutes, 8 secondsyour electromagnetic environment if you are able to control it. And so that happens routinely. 51 minutes, 16 secondsmy job or a a part of it or a good 51 minutes, 24 secondsmaybe like 14 15 months was to do something similar and to basically 51 minutes, 32 secondswar drive around the capital in in the UK and in certain other locations to try 51 minutes, 40 secondsand get people to raise their heads above the parapit with this technology. 51 minutes, 46 secondstechnology and it was through that that I was exposed to a lot of harmful radiation. 51 minutes, 58 seconds[clears throat] 51 minutes, 58 secondsand I think after a while that kind of that stacked up and because 52 minutes, 5 secondswell I was an agent I was living embedded within the community and there was no place for me to go home to other than my home. 52 minutes, 16 secondsSo that then you you’d bring your work home with you, I guess, would be would be the the best way to describe it in 52 minutes, 25 secondsa kind of glib way. And that I can only assume exposed my girlfriend at 52 minutes, 34 secondsthat time to this to the to something similar because we both came down with exactly the same answer within six months of each other. 52 minutes, 46 secondsand we both had to undergo surgery. You know, it was a very harrowing time because, you know, we had kids and so on 52 minutes, 53 secondsand suddenly both parents were, you know, out of combat, so to speak. And um 53 minutesyeah, I I maintain and I that certainly in my case and I suspect hers as well 53 minutes, 7 secondsthat it was you know occupational hazard induced that whether it was done deliberately 53 minutes, 16 secondsor whether it was you know sort of collateral damage from you know it’s hard to say but certainly 53 minutes, 25 secondsand maybe there was some underlying factors that would have contributed to it. But certainly that was an accelerant and the idea that we both come down in 53 minutes, 34 secondsgood cancer like within 6 months is you know strange to say the least. So yes I I I maintain that it was workrelated 53 minutes, 43 secondsand quite quite comfortable making that claim really. 53 minutes, 46 secondsCould you talk about some of the other more advanced directed energy weapons? 53 minutes, 50 secondsAgain, we’ve talked about the communication piece to just sort of move people in a certain direction, but can you talk about some of what Jesse was talking about 53 minutes, 59 secondswhere it’s sort of a global infrastructure and is far more nefarious? 54 minutes, 5 secondsYeah, you know, that was never really my in my purview. Let’s let’s say the sort 54 minutes, 14 secondsof the wider networks. I think it’s totally fair to say from my perspective that these systems of communication are 54 minutes, 23 secondsreliant on you know the public wireless communication network anyway 54 minutes, 30 secondsthe systems that are used they are passive they’re rerdiative they require 54 minutes, 37 secondsa certain amount of well in my case anyway they require a certain amount of pumping radiation which is applied 54 minutes, 46 secondsexternally. If it doesn’t receive that, there isn’t really the likelihood that it would certainly in the positions 54 minutes, 53 secondswhere they are in my jaw, it wouldn’t get out of the mouth, the signal. It would be attenuated by my cheek. 55 minutes, 2 secondsBut with the pumping arrangement, then it has a much higher gain and it can 55 minutes, 9 secondsYeah, it can it’s still very weak, but it can be detected. And Jesse was impressively actually able to detect it 55 minutes, 18 secondsand we had he managed his colleague managed to get it all on camera which is fantastic. 55 minutes, 24 seconds so there’s one side that is related to the wider electromagnetic environment. However, in order to um 55 minutes, 34 secondsyou know you can probably broadcast a signal pretty easily actually. You can find videos online of people with speech jammers. 55 minutes, 41 secondsYes, you need a line of sight for that, but the principle is still the same. 55 minutes, 46 secondsInstead of like transmitting tartini tones, it’s known as hetradining. And you can like pass two electromagnetic 55 minutes, 54 secondsfrequencies that superimpose on one another and they produce a they produce it’s demodulated by the skull and it can 56 minutes, 2 secondsproduce kind of an internal voice. Let me say that’s pretty standard. it’s wellnown. It’s uncontroversial in many 56 minutes, 11 secondsways and you don’t need line of sight for that as electromagnetic frequencies can obviously pass through walls and 56 minutes, 18 secondswhat have you. So there’s that side and that is infrastructure based and there is the other thing that is truly let 56 minutes, 26 secondsme say directed and in that sense you have someone sitting [clears throat] behind a piece of equipment that is 56 minutes, 33 secondsaiming or locking on to your position in order to deliver 56 minutes, 40 secondsyeah a certain amount of power and whether what the mechanism of delivery of that is can vary. So on the one 56 minutes, 50 secondshand you have very simple systems that are designed to deliver just highowered microwaves 56 minutes, 58 secondspulsed or not even pulsed. I’ve experienced very rudimentary systems 57 minutes, 5 secondsthat clearly not from you know they’re not peer adversaries let me say and in a 57 minutes, 12 secondsin a way I think they’re in a sense more dangerous because there is you know even if you weren’t trying to use them 57 minutes, 21 secondsin a lethal manner you might end up you know doing so unintentionally. 57 minutes, 27 secondsUm, and so there’s on that side, but then you you you know you know, again, it sounds ridiculous that I put 57 minutes, 35 secondsit like this. You know, quality when you see it. And that sounds ridiculous, but it’s true. I mean, the subtlety of 57 minutes, 43 secondsthe effect is displays the level of technological advancement of the person on the other 57 minutes, 52 secondsend. And so for example there are systems that can direct particle 57 minutes, 59 secondsbeams that is really the kind of exotic end and then with that you can well it depends what scale you’re using. 58 minutes, 7 secondsTypically these things are in low earth orbit and you know you could direct it down onto a target on earth and you’re 58 minutes, 15 secondsnot going to generally speaking unless that’s you know use that on an individual unless they’re the president of of of a country or so on but then you 58 minutes, 24 secondshave much smaller devices that do the same thing but again that is the sort of higher end of the technology spectrum 58 minutes, 31 secondsthat is not I wouldn’t say that’s particularly common case and then in between those two things you have a kind of spectrum. 58 minutes, 42 seconds so you have things that are really sophisticated surveillance devices you know let me say 58 minutes, 50 secondsany old any old fool could set up a microwave gun. I mean I could probably do that and you could like get a really 58 minutes, 58 secondshigh power generator and direct it at someone. I would never do that. But I think that that’s not beyond the capability 59 minutes, 6 secondsof you know your average person in the street given enough time and given enough you know enough information on 59 minutes, 15 secondshow to do it. But certainly when you move to the level of you know the surveillance devices that is incredibly 59 minutes, 22 secondsdelicate sensitive precision engineering equipment you know it uses a technique 59 minutes, 28 secondscalled optical phase inter interpherometry and actually it’s not optical 59 minutes, 36 secondsthat’s used for creating holograms but there’s a microwave phase in inter intererometry technique which is used 59 minutes, 43 secondsfor surveillance and it scatters back information from the target, 59 minutes, 50 secondsyou know, the object of interest, your surveillance interest, and that can provide a very detailed volutric view of what you’re looking at. 1 hourNow, to in order to, you know, create that kind of system, you need Yeah, that requires, you know, very high high techch, high precision engineering. 1 hour, 12 secondsYou know, we’re talking about Yeah. 1 hour, 14 secondsextremely accurate pieces of antenna systems. We’re talking about very um 1 hour, 23 secondscomplex circuitry, control circuitry and so on. And then on the the other side of that is if you’re going to use 1 hour, 32 secondsthose sort of things for surveillance and you actually want to get involved in the communications two-way 1 hour, 39 secondscommunications game. Well, then you have your a whole other issue of signals 1 hour, 46 secondsinterpretation that requires like machine learning or you know artificial intelligence to use that term loosely 1 hour, 55 secondsin order to get your return signal and so to do that requires you know a high 1 hour, 1 minute, 3 secondsdegree of technological advancement. The thing is, you know, this technology was first, you 1 hour, 1 minute, 9 secondsknow, debuted back in the late ‘7s. You know, the Moscow signal and the thing and all those other things you can go 1 hour, 1 minute, 17 secondsand read about. It’s in the declassified pieces in the National Archives. 1 hour, 1 minute, 22 secondsYou know, that was further, you know, further back in time than I’ve been alive. And in that time, 1 hour, 1 minute, 31 secondsthere has been no letup. you know the competition global competition has not changed. It’s not abated and in many 1 hour, 1 minute, 38 secondssenses it’s got you know more complicated and the only way to sort of stay a breast or stay afloat rather it’s 1 hour, 1 minute, 46 secondsprobably the better word isn’t it that is to maintain your edge in the technological space and this is you know 1 hour, 1 minute, 54 secondswhere you find this technology is the bleeding edge if there’s any like any news items recently in the past year that everyone 1 hour, 2 minutes, 1 secondelse has been so consumed by and you’ve sort of sat back and said that’s I know what that 1 hour, 2 minutes, 7 secondsis. That’s the work of of X, Y, and Z directed energy weapon, whether it’s, you know, the Maui wildfires or God 1 hour, 2 minutes, 17 secondsknows what else. I can’t wrap my head around it. But is there anything you’re aware of that people would just have their their jaws a gape? 1 hour, 2 minutes, 26 secondsYeah. Well, you’ve used the right expression there actually because it’s known in the business as jaw-dropping. 1 hour, 2 minutes, 34 secondsAnd as I hug to to Jesse the other day, it’s probably because you couldn’t use the term e ees eavesdropping. It’s something something slightly different. 1 hour, 2 minutes, 42 secondsBut actually that’s the humorous my h the humor in my response is is gallows 1 hour, 2 minutes, 51 secondshumor really because this technology can be used in extremely lethal way. 1 hour, 2 minutes, 58 seconds yes, there have been times when I’ve seen something and I’ve thought to myself, well gosh, yeah, if I’m a I’m a 1 hour, 3 minutes, 6 secondsbet, you know, if I’m a betting guy, I can tell you exactly what has happened here. There’s no doubt in my mind how such and such a thing has been 1 hour, 3 minutes, 14 secondsaccomplished or so. Yes, that does happen. It hasn’t happened for a little while. you know 1 hour, 3 minutes, 21 secondsI can say that I watch sometimes debates between you know very eminent and very 1 hour, 3 minutes, 28 seconds what’s the word smart people in the online world debating things like you know can’t remember what it’s called now 1 hour, 3 minutes, 36 secondsghost murmur and yes you know I I I see that they are grappling with the normal 1 hour, 3 minutes, 44 secondsstandard physics ideas about how such a thing could work but unless you understand that what would these systems 1 hour, 3 minutes, 52 secondsare dealing with a certain amount of pulse pumped radiation. They’re reraiiating devices. They’re not like 1 hour, 3 minutes, 59 secondsharvesting in in my experience, you know, biological energy. It it’s it’s related 1 hour, 4 minutes, 7 secondsto that. You can tell someone’s heartbeat because the whole system is integrated with your own biological 1 hour, 4 minutes, 14 secondselectro biological bioelectric field. so yes, you could detect 1 hour, 4 minutes, 21 secondssomeone’s heartbeat but the manner in which you get a signal is not via you know that providing its own power. No, 1 hour, 4 minutes, 29 secondsthat wouldn’t work. But if you pump a device and it’s rerairadiating then you know you can start to get especially if 1 hour, 4 minutes, 38 secondsyou’re know observing from 40 km away but you making the assumption that you’re observing like horizontally. No 1 hour, 4 minutes, 45 secondsyou’re observing from straight up there’s actually that’s an unimpeded low attenuation path into low earth 1 hour, 4 minutes, 52 secondsorbit and that’s probably how you’re getting your signal. So yes, so when I’m looking at these things being talked 1 hour, 5 minutes, 1 secondabout in the mainstream the mainstream you know town hall let me say I see a very you know 1 hour, 5 minutes, 10 secondsrational reasonable wellought through scientific reactions but once you know the kind of tricks of the trade let me 1 hour, 5 minutes, 18 secondssay and they that’s what it is then you know it’s like any old any magic trick it becomes a little more yeah a little 1 hour, 5 minutes, 27 secondsless interesting once you know how it’s done. 1 hour, 5 minutes, 30 secondsJesse, anything stand out to you of recent news events that you said? Yeah. 1 hour, 5 minutes, 36 secondsYeah. Well, you know, the G ghost murmur was pretty significant. You know, that’s the pilot that was downed in [snorts] Iran, how they were able to locate him. 1 hour, 5 minutes, 45 secondsUm, and you know, the the tracking his heartbeat, correct? They were able to see the 1 hour, 5 minutes, 53 secondssignal. Um, and that’s what Rafe is is describing. Um, and you had asked earlier, you know, you had mentioned, 1 hour, 6 minutes, 1 secondyou know, you’ve spoken to CIA agents and are talking about this device being aimed at them. That happens in very 1 hour, 6 minutes, 8 seconds[clears throat] few cases. And I believe it’s a scops and it’s done on purpose because they don’t want the majority of the population to understand that this 1 hour, 6 minutes, 17 secondsis the only way this is a global event is because it’s exactly what Brief described. It’s in our orbit. This is 1 hour, 6 minutes, 24 secondscoming from satellite. It’s a complete network that’s integrated with our groundbased systems. Uhhuh. And and and 1 hour, 6 minutes, 32 secondsultimately, if they can find this this downpilot’s heart signature, why aren’t 1 hour, 6 minutes, 39 secondswe using technology in a way to find all these missing children, people that go missing? The Gutridge case. why 1 hour, 6 minutes, 48 secondsdidn’t they use it? because they could have they would have been able to read that pacemaker. Why why aren’t these 1 hour, 6 minutes, 57 secondstechnologies being disclosed? And the issue is because it’s about power and dominance. And once they 1 hour, 7 minutes, 6 secondscontrol the entire globe, then you have one unification, you have basically a global government. 1 hour, 7 minutes, 14 secondsHere’s what needs to happen. Right now we know with this phenomenon they can a lot of the victims talk about how 1 hour, 7 minutes, 23 secondstheir thoughts are being read. Okay, very intrusive everything that they see, visualize, experience. 1 hour, 7 minutes, 31 secondsSo that’s being retransmitted and that’s called metadata. And the issue is metadata is not illegal to capture and 1 hour, 7 minutes, 38 secondsour government is capturing in in mass grows. I strongly feel and and many others and experts are feel that a 1 hour, 7 minutes, 47 secondslot of these data centers the United States has 4,000 data centers currently and is building more. Why do they need these huge capacities to capture data? 1 hour, 7 minutes, 58 secondsThe bottom line is is that metadata is your intellectual property and they’re profiting off of your intellectual property. 1 hour, 8 minutes, 8 secondsAnd it’s it’s very important that everyone understands that once the human brain has been conquered, your thoughts when they are 1 hour, 8 minutes, 17 secondsno longer private, you are no longer a free species. Um 1 hour, 8 minutes, 24 secondsyou everything if you have a great idea or a great technology that you want to develop 1 hour, 8 minutes, 34 secondsthat can be stolen from you and there’s nothing that you can do about it. There are many states that are waking up now that are now coming up with laws to 1 hour, 8 minutes, 41 secondsprotect your cognitive freedom. because you know that’s one aspect of it. The other aspect of is what about 1 hour, 8 minutes, 50 secondsfuture crimes? Can you be prosecuted for your thoughts? these predictive algorithms because all of this mass data 1 hour, 8 minutes, 59 seconds remember this data is the crack cocaine for Silicon Valley. all of these 1 hour, 9 minutes, 4 secondstech giants and what is the ability for your children and your generations to their generations to come, your 1 hour, 9 minutes, 13 secondsgreat-grandchildren to live a free life? Are you really free when your thoughts are no longer your 1 hour, 9 minutes, 21 secondsown? That’s the other aspect. We now know that through the New World Vista’s report that and and prior to 1 hour, 9 minutes, 30 secondsthat other reports that were released about doing experimentation on prisoners who were incarcerated in 1 hour, 9 minutes, 39 secondsprison, specifically in California, even back in 1974, they were already talking about being able to remotely read 1 hour, 9 minutes, 49 secondsbiometrics. And in that report it said including reading thoughts. 1 hour, 9 minutes, 54 secondsThat is the world we live in today. That is what we’re facing. Because if you can 1 hour, 10 minutes, 1 seconderase memory sets with this technology and imprint memory sets, you will never know that they weren’t your thoughts. As 1 hour, 10 minutes, 9 secondsa hypnotherapist, if I was unethical, I know that this can be done. 1 hour, 10 minutes, 18 seconds[clears throat] 1 hour, 10 minutes, 18 secondsAnd that is what everyone as a human species needs 1 hour, 10 minutes, 26 secondsto consider. We need to have some serious discussions about this. We need to really start putting people in 1 hour, 10 minutes, 33 secondspositions of power who are really going to understand. 1 hour, 10 minutes, 38 secondsYou know, you can only climb so far to the top, but those at the top, what do you think is going to happen when they’ve completely accomplished their 1 hour, 10 minutes, 46 secondsmission? They’re no longer going to need these captains, colonels, and so forth underneath them. Even they are susceptible and they have family too. 1 hour, 10 minutes, 55 secondsYou they have children. their children are not going to be immune to this. So this is going to affect 99% of 1 hour, 11 minutes, 4 secondseveryone. That 1% and I can tell you why the 1% that elite 1% believes that they are the only one smart enough to 1 hour, 11 minutes, 13 secondsdecide what happens to you. In 2011, I was invited to the presidential bioeththics commission held in San 1 hour, 11 minutes, 21 secondsFrancisco at you the UCSF there at the teaching hospital and Amy Gutman was the head. and she was appointed by 1 hour, 11 minutes, 28 secondsPresident Obama and I was I was going to be allowed to ask a question and because they were doing they were talking about 1 hour, 11 minutes, 36 secondscapturing all data on the human genome project and my question that I wrote my assistant wrote this as she was a witness there and I said I understand 1 hour, 11 minutes, 45 secondsthe importance for your experimentation but what safeguards do you put aside for when your experimentation goes wrong 1 hour, 11 minutes, 53 secondsand every major news network was there and when she read the card she tore covered up and she says this statement, 1 hour, 12 minutes, 2 seconds”We are the elite 1% of the top 1% that should decide what happens, what people 1 hour, 12 minutes, 10 secondsdo to their bodies because people are too dumb to make the right decision. 1 hour, 12 minutes, 18 secondsThat’s what they believe at the top.” Rafe, I’ll get you out of here on this. 1 hour, 12 minutes, 23 secondsUm, you’ve been so gracious with your time and we I could do another three hours with you and I hope that we will I hope that you’ll come back and we can dive far 1 hour, 12 minutes, 31 secondsmore deeply into all of this. But what what concerns you the most about the future and the future use of this technology? Jesse mentioned the MK Ultra 1 hour, 12 minutes, 40 secondshearings which I think in many ways were a farce because to his point, yeah, we of course we know MK Ultra existed. It’s just now morphed into 1 hour, 12 minutes, 48 secondssomething far more nefarious and it’s now way bigger than it’s, you know, was back in the 1960s and 70s. Um, in ways 1 hour, 12 minutes, 57 secondsthat we don’t have a name for it. We probably don’t understand how nefarious and widespread it actually is. So, I guess I’ll just ask you, what are you most concerned about with this 1 hour, 13 minutes, 5 secondstechnology? Where do you think our biggest blind spots are? 1 hour, 13 minutes, 10 secondsWell, that’s a very good point, a very qu good question. And Jesse raised the great point which is that no one is 1 hour, 13 minutes, 19 secondsimmune to this. There’s not a human being that can resist this technology if it is leveraged 1 hour, 13 minutes, 26 secondsagainst them. You know the again the expression resistance is futile. It really is. There’s absolutely nothing you can do about it. if if it’s 1 hour, 13 minutes, 36 secondsdecided one way or another that you are going to be the the the beneficiary of its effects, right? 1 hour, 13 minutes, 46 seconds so there’s that. So, I would say that, you know, it’s one thing to be in the driver’s seat right now, and that’s 1 hour, 13 minutes, 55 secondsall well and good, and you have your fingers on the levers and whatever else, and you’re the one who can call the shots and, you know, make the decisions 1 hour, 14 minutes, 3 secondsabout who gets, you know, a dose of electricity here or or whatever it is. Um, that situation is 1 hour, 14 minutes, 13 secondsalways liable to change. And I think, you know, nowhere is that more at no time in history has that been a more 1 hour, 14 minutes, 22 secondspressing or more relevant idea than in this day and age when things can change in a week. Different systems can come 1 hour, 14 minutes, 30 secondsinto existence in in a few days. And so I think that you know that should be kept in mind by 1 hour, 14 minutes, 38 secondsthe people who are quite sort of lay about the use of this technology. The other thing I would say is that until 1 hour, 14 minutes, 46 secondsthere is a recognition of you know an acknowledgement even if it’s 1 hour, 14 minutes, 53 secondsjust the simple stuff that is you know for example you know LRADS or you know 1 hour, 15 minutes, 1 secondvoice to skull systems using acoustic laser devices you know things of that nature like 1 hour, 15 minutes, 9 secondsthat’s very easy it’s well accepted it’s in the peer-reviewed literature But it’s I don’t think in the UK for example it’s even been acknowledged. 1 hour, 15 minutes, 18 secondsNow that leaves a huge blind spot because until you actually call things out and the public is made gener 1 hour, 15 minutes, 27 secondsgenerally aware of them you can’t develop policy around it. I mean everything you do is couched in vague 1 hour, 15 minutes, 36 secondsterms or catchall ideas which is this a very rich environment for 1 hour, 15 minutes, 43 secondsproducing loopholes and so the other thing I see and certainly from my own experiences that 1 hour, 15 minutes, 51 secondslike on the one hand I can I’m now far enough there’s enough distance between 1 hour, 15 minutes, 59 secondslike my time and now that I look back on those that time and sort of 1 hour, 16 minutes, 6 secondslook at it from a from a from the perspective of the people that had to handle me and I can say well you know 1 hour, 16 minutes, 14 secondswhat I can I I if I was in their shoes what would I have done and like maybe sometimes I’m like yeah I could probably would have done 1 hour, 16 minutes, 22 secondssame thing but it’s not legal it’s not lawful and so while I can 1 hour, 16 minutes, 29 secondsunderstand it it’s still against the law and the behavior was truly unlawful in 1 hour, 16 minutes, 37 secondsmany respects and so you know that’s just a small part of the picture and I was doing something 1 hour, 16 minutes, 46 secondsuseful you know and so or I thought I was doing something useful and or at least I believed I was doing something 1 hour, 16 minutes, 53 secondsuseful which is I don’t know whether that’s equivalent but you know I can’t imagine what It might be like for people 1 hour, 17 minutes, 2 secondsthat you have no interest in getting them to do something useful to you. They can’t offer you anything. All you need 1 hour, 17 minutes, 9 secondsthem for is something and at the end you can just dispose of them. And that is 1 hour, 17 minutes, 15 secondsthat’s frankly quite terrifying that such a situation could develop. And I’m 1 hour, 17 minutes, 22 secondsbeing clear with with Jesse from the beginning, you know, I’m not what you might call a targeted individual. 1 hour, 17 minutes, 31 seconds if I were or you know it when I the more I’ve learned about them let me say is the more horrified I’ve been because 1 hour, 17 minutes, 41 secondsthere is to there is going to be and definitely a percentage and who could 1 hour, 17 minutes, 48 secondssay like how big that percentage is of people that are genuinely being targeted 1 hour, 17 minutes, 55 secondsby this technology. It’s not you know an artifice of their imagination or for 1 hour, 18 minutes, 1 secondany other reason. It’s real and the purpose behind that is opaque. 1 hour, 18 minutes, 9 secondsAnd you know I was lucky in my sense in my in my situation I genuinely 1 hour, 18 minutes, 17 secondsgenerally rather understood what this was all about. I mean, there were times when I really didn’t, but then it was 1 hour, 18 minutes, 23 secondsnot an operational requirement. I’d had no need to know. And again, I can look back on that and say, “Yeah, that was the right call.” Because actually, had I 1 hour, 18 minutes, 32 secondsknown what was coming down the pipeline, I would have like maybe freaked out. I would have, you know, something could have gone wrong. I just didn’t need to 1 hour, 18 minutes, 40 secondsknow. And so, like, there was an element of like, well, confusion or like a big question mark. And sometimes it felt 1 hour, 18 minutes, 46 secondsvery Yeah. unfair and like odd lots of other things. Um, but for people who have 1 hour, 18 minutes, 55 secondsliterally no idea about why they might have been targeted or why they’ve been singled out because the purpose or 1 hour, 19 minutes, 4 secondseven the general scope of the purpose for that has never been made known to them. Well, there’s not much to hold on 1 hour, 19 minutes, 12 secondsto at that point. And I think that that’s an incredibly frightening frightening situation to be in. And so 1 hour, 19 minutes, 19 secondsyes, that is what I would say is that not only is there no hope to regulate 1 hour, 19 minutes, 26 secondsthe space and as long as it’s never been acknowledged, but also there is that space itself is inherently unlawful. 1 hour, 19 minutes, 38 secondsIt’s like, you know, it’s a lawless place and, you know, some seriously bad things could happen and probably are 1 hour, 19 minutes, 44 secondshappening and yeah, as far as I can see, likely are happening. 1 hour, 19 minutes, 51 secondsJesse, final thoughts with the few seconds we have left. 1 hour, 19 minutes, 55 secondsWell, um, you know, really, we just humanity needs to band together. The 1 hour, 20 minutes, 1 seconddivide and conquer is by design. We all understand the language of love. We all bleed the same underneath. And it’s 1 hour, 20 minutes, 10 secondsimportant that we we take our power back. The other thing is is there are 1 hour, 20 minutes, 16 secondssome things that you can do to help alleviate some of the RF exposure that 1 hour, 20 minutes, 26 secondsyou get. melanin is a is a a great thing to have. the studies have shown that those with less melanin are more 1 hour, 20 minutes, 35 secondssusceptible to these RF emissions and manipulation. 1 hour, 20 minutes, 40 seconds so that’s one aspect and the other aspect is to get these toxins out of you, these amplifiers out of you, the 1 hour, 20 minutes, 47 secondsgraphine oxide, the silicon, any of these poisonous tox toxins. It’s important to to get them out of you. 1 hour, 20 minutes, 56 secondsYeah, that’s right. And we’ll have a link in the description because we’ve talked about Masterpiece before. to get these toxins out of your body. And 1 hour, 21 minutes, 3 secondsyou know, for anyone who’s interested in it, do more research on it, but we’ll have a link in the description below. I know many thousands of our viewers have 1 hour, 21 minutes, 11 secondshave taken it and seen remarkable changes by getting graphine oxide and all these other heavy metals and things 1 hour, 21 minutes, 18 secondsout of their body. Um, so we’ll have a link in the description on that as well, but um, just to help anybody. But yeah, getting out, I guess, getting that 1 hour, 21 minutes, 26 secondsmelanin, getting that vitamin D and just trying to protect yourself from this. 1 hour, 21 minutes, 30 secondsUm, but Rafe, I would love to have you back on to do more of a deep dive on this. We could spend I could spend hours on this and we will hopefully at some 1 hour, 21 minutes, 39 secondspoint. So, thank you for your bravery in coming forward and and sharing what you saw while you were at MI6 and some 1 hour, 21 minutes, 47 secondsof these nefarious technologies that have been used on on people around the world. We we we appreciate your bravery on that. Jesse and Rafe, thank thank you to both of you. 1 hour, 21 minutes, 56 secondsThank you, Clayton. Thank you. Cheers. Thank you.Chapter 1: Show introduction 0 secondsWell, welcome to the show. Was the head of the CIA killed from Havana syndrome? 5 secondsJames Wolsey just died. His family claims Havana syndrome was the heart of it and he suffered complications from it and that’s why he passed away. This is 13 secondsan astonishing claim. And all of this is happening just as one of Britain’s former intelligence assets came forward 20 secondsclaiming he was used in secretive experiments involving implantable nanotechnology, covert communications, and technologies 28 secondsthat allegedly left him permanently changed. So today we’re joined by Rafe Hassel, a former MI6 intelligence asset 35 secondswhistleblower who says he was subjected to covert human experimentation during his work with British intelligence. His claims touch on everything from advanced 43 secondsnanotechnology, alleged brain-to-brain communication systems all the way up to Havana syndrome, which is the the term 50 secondsof the day apparently with the death of James Wolsey. Also, directed energy weapons and the question of whether governments have crossed ethical lines 58 secondsin the pursuit of this secret technology. Joining him is researcher and friend of the show Jesse Beltron who has spent years documenting documenting 1 minute, 7 secondsthese allegations and the growing body of evidence surrounding them including Havana syndrome. So today we’re going to hear Hassel’s story and examine the 1 minute, 14 secondsevidence behind these extraordinary claims and of course the big breaking news of the day. welcome to both of you gentlemen. 1 minute, 24 secondsThank you Clayton. It’s a pleasure. Thank you for having us on. 1 minute, 27 secondsYeah. So Rafe, I mean I just maybe get your response to the news that we’ve just learned obviously about James Wolsey, the head of the CIA and the family’s claims of Havana syndrome. 1 minute, 39 secondsWell, I take those claims extremely seriously and I think they’re likely true and he wouldn’t be the first very 1 minute, 47 secondssenior intelligence officer to have succumbed to illnesses that have been claimed to be associated with Havana syndrome. 1 minute, 56 secondsThe whole concept or practice of so-called microwave diplomacy since the 2 minutes, 3 seconds1970s has had fallout. It has had casualties ranging from very high ranking 2 minutes, 11 secondsintelligence and state department officials working in in that case in Russia. they came down with leukemia 2 minutes, 19 secondsand they have maintained although it was never fully accepted that this was to do with exposure to microwave radiation while in post. 2 minutes, 31 secondsI think what has happened now is that well we have a claim from a very senior member of the intelligence 2 minutes, 39 secondsestablishment who has now unfortunately succumbed to their injuries and you know it’s a continuation of the same 2 minutes, 47 secondstrend and I think there is no reason or certainly I don’t have any reason to doubt that claim at all. 2 minutes, 54 secondsJesse your thoughts? 2 minutes, 57 secondsYeah well this is really really front and and center 3 minutes, 4 secondsright now. obviously I’ve been covering this topic since 2010 and our US government has denied that this 3 minutes, 12 secondsaffliction, Havana syndrome, AHIS. Back then in 2010 we called it electronic terrorism. they are denying that this is happening to United States civilians. 3 minutes, 24 secondsThey’re only claiming that this is happening to federal employees and their family members. But they have to remember that their family members are 3 minutes, 31 secondscivilians as well. they are they are now offering compensation. I think over 3 minutes, 38 seconds$3 million has been paid out now to Havana Syndrome federal employees who had claims that they’ve been afflicted 3 minutes, 46 secondsby this. But the the bigger story here is, you know, who’s doing it? Is it still going on? 3 minutes, 55 secondsand is this a continuation of the MK Ultra experiences? And I claim under 4 minutes, 3 secondsthe data that I’ve collected over the last 20 years that it’s all of the above. 4 minutes, 9 secondsJesse, how did you learn about Rafe’s story? 4 minutes, 13 secondsYeah. Well, when I did my first interview with you, Clayton, you know, that had I mean it’s seen been 4 minutes, 21 secondsseen over a million times now. Rafe saw me in that interview and he mentioned 4 minutes, 30 secondsto me that for the first time he had heard someone who very methodically 4 minutes, 37 seconds explained the signs and symptoms and the methodology that goes around this phenomenon. And then he had reached out 4 minutes, 46 secondsto my staff and quite frankly when I heard that Rafe was an MI6 whistleblower, Oxford educated GS15 4 minutes, 54 secondsclearance just had extensive experience in overseas and he 5 minutes, 2 secondscan expound upon that. And we did some factchecking on on Rafe because it just seemed too good to be true. And to our 5 minutes, 12 secondsastonishment everything that Rafe has shared we were able to verify and that’s how Rafe reached out to me and we 5 minutes, 19 secondsimmediately hopped on a plane within the next week and Rafe agreed to allow us to interview him and he can explain what 5 minutes, 28 secondshe went through pretty succinctly and his story is phenomenal and we he really 5 minutes, 36 secondsis a diamond in the rough. He’s one of the rare whistleblowers that the world needs so that the world understands 5 minutes, 43 secondswhere technology is today and the pros and cons to it because he has a different perspective where the clients 5 minutes, 50 secondsthat I see would all claim that this is a very negative experience. Rafe has mixed feelings about it and I’ll let him expound upon that. 6 minutesAll right, we’re going to pause the show for just a second. We’ll get back to our interview in just a second. But first, a paid advertisement from our friends at Rumble Wallet. 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I heard Jesse speak and I understood that this was a yeah someone who had studied this phenomenon 9 minutes, 20 secondsto a great extent and had what I’ve come to learn is and I had an intuition 9 minutes, 27 secondsabout is unparalleled experience dealing with dealing with literally thousands of 9 minutes, 34 secondspeople. I from from a technical perspective as well as a sort of h human human one 9 minutes, 41 secondsand I knew that certainly a percentage who could put a figure on it of those people that he was working with 9 minutes, 50 secondswould have been bonafide experiences or experiences rather 9 minutes, 58 secondsof some of the effects and some of the tools and techniques that I had was aware of and had used and had experience 10 minutes, 6 secondsof and that this was someone who yeah certainly I could have a conversation with and I 10 minutes, 15 secondsyou know Jesse uses the term whistleblower but I’m not really whistleblowing from an organization I’m 10 minutes, 21 secondswhistleblowing about a a practice or let me say a set of activities that is 10 minutes, 30 secondsundertaken by people who are in my position and I views on that and 10 minutes, 37 secondscertainly I wanted to give Jesse what information that I could that might assist him from my position in 10 minutes, 46 secondsterms of someone who is familiar with the things that he’s he’s documenting and talking about in his day-to-day role. 10 minutes, 55 secondsSo maybe we could be specific for our audience that may have missed our earlier interview. We could talk about specifics. What things specifically were 11 minutes, 3 secondsyou saying, “These people were afflicted by and I know what they’re going through because I was using it at the agency or I was using it at MI6 or we were trained 11 minutes, 11 secondsin this.” Like, what things stood out to you that like lit a light bulb moment for you? 11 minutes, 16 secondsGosh, I’d have to look back at the interview. I mean, I I would be be misrepresenting the truth if I could 11 minutes, 24 secondsremember a specific thing. it probably was the issue of directed energy weapons which is something that 11 minutes, 33 secondsis well let me say the less pleasant side of the whole technology. It is also by far and away the most dangerous. 11 minutes, 42 seconds it’s lethal and it’s incapacitative. 11 minutes, 47 secondsAnd I think Can you just talk about the mechanisms of that? I’m sorry. This is your world and for the lay person. Sure. 11 minutes, 53 secondsAre we talking about a machine? Are we talking about nanop particles? Are we talking about medicines? How can you maybe describe the type of directed 12 minutes, 1 secondenergy weapons that you were familiar with? And this this when you heard it in Jesse’s interview, you said, “Wow, I 12 minutes, 8 secondsknow I know that.” Yeah. Well, they are they’re they basically fall into two two 12 minutes, 16 secondscategories as far as I’m concerned. but they both both involve the same uh 12 minutes, 23 secondsidea which is remote action using electronic means. So that would be to 12 minutes, 31 secondsuse the electromagnetic spectrum. It would be to use elementary particles in a particle beam. It would be to use 12 minutes, 40 secondsinfrasound, infrasound or any other tool or technique that is not u visibly uh 12 minutes, 47 secondsobvious but is still has a physical effect. And if you use it in a high enough intensity or power setting that 12 minutes, 56 secondscan then have impacts on human on the human biology. 13 minutes, 4 secondsAnd so if you can talk about it from one side, you have surveillance tools and techniques that have traditionally 13 minutes, 12 secondsrelied on, you know, radio broadcasts for once of a better word, but that’s exactly the same phenomena, but that can 13 minutes, 19 secondsbe dialed up and dialed down and so that can be repurposed for directed 13 minutes, 26 secondsenergy effects. But then you have weapons and that’s why they’re called directed energy weapons because they are they 13 minutes, 35 secondsdesigned to in fact they range from the whole spectr from highly 13 minutes, 44 secondslethal to temporarily incapacitating like you might find in an LRAD. And so 13 minutes, 53 secondswhere I’m interested in this or where I have experience is on the clandistine 14 minutes use of these tools to enhance or 14 minutes, 6 secondsto support intelligence work and that’s done in the shadows. It’s designed to be 14 minutes, 13 seconds to have to leave no trace. It’s designed to blend in with the background 14 minutes, 19 secondsnoise in inverted commas and that is what Jesse is dealing with. you know 14 minutes, 27 secondswe are talking about people who are have been or claiming to have been attacked 14 minutes, 34 seconds by directed energy and how you are able to understand what it is precisely that 14 minutes, 42 secondsthey’ve been dealing with and how you disagregate that from other things. 14 minutes, 47 secondsThat’s where I thought I might be able to help Jesse with because I could explain how I’ve seen it used, how I’ve seen it 14 minutes, 54 secondsdeployed and certainly he knew what to look for. So it was kind of another 15 minutes, 2 secondsway to like support him in that. I mean I don’t know whether that’s fully answered your question Clayton but right I guess though yeah at the heart 15 minutes, 9 secondsof it it’s multiaceted. So Jesse, are there specific applications where where Rafe was able to confirm what you 15 minutes, 17 secondshad been researching to say this was a remotely accessed because he he he he mentioned a broad range of ideas there. 15 minutes, 25 secondsRadio waves or you know something that’s not that could be triggered remotely, things that could be temporarily 15 minutes, 32 secondsincapacitating someone all the way up to far more severe. 15 minutes, 38 secondsYeah. Well, Rafe really explained it well when we went there and did his original interview. He talked about the 15 minutes, 46 secondssystem being multiaceted and that really piqu my interest because I said well what do you mean by multiaceted and and 15 minutes, 53 secondsRafe had ex explained to us how he had been on clandestine missions and 16 minutes, 2 seconds he was basically told by his handlers or his superiors that he was 16 minutes, 9 secondsgoing to like this and and just accept it and you’re You’re going to you’re going to think this is pretty 16 minutes, 16 secondscool. I’m just I’m I’m making inferences at this point. and he can explain what that Yeah. And and maybe Ree, you 16 minutes, 25 secondscan explain what that was about and and why you said it actually may have saved your life at times. Yeah. 16 minutes, 32 secondsWell, that is true. But can I first say that both of you are much better at summarizing succinctly what I’ve been saying and that was very good, Clayton. 16 minutes, 41 secondsI thought that you sort of were able to pick apart the kind of word salad that I’m delivering. Um, yeah. Sure. 16 minutes, 48 secondsWell, I think it’s for a lot of us who live in something for so many years, you know, you live in something for 20 years and then someone comes along who has no 16 minutes, 55 secondsidea what you’re talking about, you know, I can kind of see it from fresh eyes. And so to see this sort of paniply, this sort of multiaceted tool 17 minutes, 4 secondsset that they have access to, which I’d never heard that before. I mean, that’s stunning to me. that you know they 17 minutes, 11 secondshave a they have a they have a toolkit that they can use. We we just want to we want to interfere with someone a little bit or we really want to incapacitate them. 17 minutes, 21 secondsYeah, absolutely. And I think that is actually, and you’re right, sometimes you don’t see the wood for the trees. 17 minutes, 28 secondsAnd it can be living in it, which I was for several years, can be well, it’s 17 minutes, 35 secondstotally overwhelming in many in many respects because it can pop up pretty much in every avenue of life. and the 17 minutes, 45 secondssort of human experience cybernetic in the sense that it can you know these tools it is a toolkit and 17 minutes, 53 secondsthat’s how it was referred to the cyber tools of some description they are able to like reach out and undertake actions 18 minutes, 3 secondsfrom a distance and yeah it ranges from like surveillance all the way through to you know almost they don’t 18 minutes, 10 secondscall it kinetic but it is essentially kinetic in the sense that the outcome is 18 minutes, 16 secondsthe same. Um, Jesse did mention that, you know, there were some sort of, 18 minutes, 24 secondsyou know, at the time it was ex, you know, I didn’t take it in a in a humorous way at all. Um, you know, it’s with hindsight that I can look at it and 18 minutes, 33 secondssort of think, gosh, yeah, that was a bit absurd and maybe, you know, would I enjoy it? I mean, you 18 minutes, 40 secondsknow, quite honestly, I don’t know how the thing is, if I look at it from the other perspective, you’ve got to keep 18 minutes, 47 secondsyou’ve got to keep an asset going, right? You’ve got to keep them motivated in some ludicrous respect because, you 18 minutes, 55 secondsknow, this is a very unusual and what’s the word I’m looking for? unpleasant scenario in which to find 19 minutes, 3 secondsyourself. And you got to keep people motivated. There’s a lot of risk. 19 minutes, 8 secondsThere’s a lot of personal risk. There’s a lot of threat. And you know, well, you’ve got to appeal to perhaps things 19 minutes, 15 secondsthat, you know, seem could be anything, right? But I mean, 19 minutes, 23 secondsyou want to like imply that, you know, maybe I can help. Rick. 19 minutes, 29 secondsYeah. Rick. Rick, can you can you talk about the multiaceted aspects of it? You talked about the the communication 19 minutes, 36 secondsaspect of it. You talked about if you stepped out of line, didn’t follow protocol, what they would do. And then ultimately you already expressed about 19 minutes, 44 seconds it could become lethal that you know you were basically you and your significant other were given cancer at the same time 19 minutes, 51 secondsbecause of being exposed to this. So if you can explain to the audience if they can hear that from you, I think that’s important. 19 minutes, 58 secondsOkay. Well, I mean I think I then will explain because I think but the best way is to say that there are two types really like two main categories. One is 20 minutes, 7 secondsthe surveillance tools [sighs] which rely on yeah 20 minutes, 14 secondsremote electromagnetic communications sensing and interpretation of signals data that’s 20 minutes, 23 secondsbasically coming from a human being. it’s one it is relatively easy to provide a signal. 20 minutes, 30 secondsIt’s a lot more challenging to get a signal back. once you can achieve that then you have a two-way multipplexing uh 20 minutes, 40 secondscommunication system and that that itself has you know 20 minutes, 47 secondsvarious power and signal signaling requirements and that this tool itself it can be 20 minutes, 55 secondsrepurposed to cause discomfort pain and I’m sorry just to be clear this is 21 minutes, 3 secondssomething when you worked for the agent. Is this something they injected into you? 21 minutes, 8 secondsSomething that you No. So, I was provided with a dental 21 minutes, 15 secondsimplant back in 2013, the summer summer of that year. 21 minutes, 21 seconds against my knowledge and that has yeah since been identified. But at the 21 minutes, 29 secondsat the time it was done without my knowledge or consent. And then in 2016 21 minutes, 40 secondsthat was it was made clear to me that this was the case and that this device 21 minutes, 47 secondscould be used for two-way communications. And up until that point, I’d been using other means of um 21 minutes, 56 secondscommunicating with handlers with communicating with other covert human intelligence sources both sort of 22 minutes, 4 secondsforeign, domestic and had been yeah providing information very through more 22 minutes, 12 secondstraditional inverted commerce ways like electronic Dropbox and so on and 22 minutes, 19 secondselectronic drops so they could just so like so no like you remember um 22 minutes, 27 secondsGeneral Petraeus that he was communicating with his I I want to say I I don’t know who he 22 minutes, 35 secondswas actually communicating with but they’re writing emails in Gmail you know he would make a draft she would sign into the same account they would 22 minutes, 43 secondsread the information delete the information that is effectively an electronic Dropbox box. So, it’s 22 minutes, 51 secondsdesigned to circumvent traditional means of communications. You didn’t have to send anything in the 22 minutes, 59 secondstraditional sense and but yet you could still send and receive information in a covert manner. Well, that’s what they had hoped. I mean, the idea is the same. 23 minutes, 9 secondsSo, using email or using any other means. so when when I talk about an electronic Dropbox that could range from 23 minutes, 16 secondsanything typically typically using email but to unused accounts or 23 minutes, 25 secondsduplicated accounts and so on. but in the summer of 2016, 23 minutes, 33 secondsI was encouraged let’s use that word to get off these methods 23 minutes, 41 seconds for yeah operational reasons. It then became obvious with hindsight but I didn’t understand at the time and that’s 23 minutes, 49 secondswhen the method of methods of communication were introduced to me and that took several months. It wasn’t 23 minutes, 58 secondssomething that, you know, you can just switch on just like that and expect someone to deal with it. It’s an incredibly invasive 24 minutes, 7 secondsand wholly occupying mentally. 24 minutes, 12 secondsSo, how do can you talk about how you experience it? I mean, is it almost like voice voices in your head? Are you 24 minutes, 22 secondssynthetic telepathy is what he’s describing. Yeah. [clears throat] Yeah. I mean synthetic telepathy. 24 minutes, 28 secondsYes. It’s like a you know it’s you know if you are receiving an instruction it would be something that is like it’s a 24 minutes, 36 secondsit’s a voice that kind of appears in your head and there’s it’s a very 24 minutes, 43 secondsstrange strange phenomenon and as you know the first time it happened I was I was shocked I was kind scandalized I 24 minutes, 53 secondsthink would be a good word. but they that but because of this and my reluctance to have the commands given to 25 minutes, 1 secondme that in that way that wasn’t used very often at all and other methods 25 minutes, 10 secondswere were used but the idea that it could be used was were was always available to me. I mean, I I can tell 25 minutes, 20 secondsyou it’s it really is not it’s not something that a person a human being is designed for. 25 minutes, 28 secondsYou know, we are social creatures. We have evolved genetically over millennia. 25 minutes, 33 secondsWe we’re not designed to have this kind of well, as far as I know, you know, we’re not designed to to communicate in 25 minutes, 43 secondsthis manner. And the idea that your one’s internal monologue or your thoughts or particularly my thoughts, my 25 minutes, 50 secondsinternal monologue could be understood and have information 25 minutes, 57 secondsextracted from that. Whether or not I liked it is another unbelievably 26 minutes, 3 seconds what’s the word? The word I use is a panopticon. You know, you have literally nowhere to hide. you have nowhere you 26 minutes, 13 secondscan seek sort of privacy. I think that’s the end that yeah that I think that’s the best way to put it is the end of end 26 minutes, 20 secondsof all notion of privacy that you may have you know range from your reactions to meeting people you know maybe you’ve see 26 minutes, 30 secondssomeone you think they’re attractive or you think the opposite you know these those kind of things are no longer 26 minutes, 38 secondsthings that you can keep to yourself it’s all there for the taking and because of that it has an Yeah, 26 minutes, 46 secondsthe impact psychologically is well, let me say devastating. And I read back to some of my communications which I 26 minutes, 55 secondssubmitted to the invest in investigatory powers tribunal quite recently actually. I looked 27 minutes, 2 secondsthrough at some of the some of the communications at the time and you know I I was writing at that time I don’t know how I’m going to get over this. 27 minutes, 12 secondsThis is like this is psychologically absolutely devastating. I can’t see how 27 minutes, 19 secondsI will ever recover actually because but then in order to sort of like as I say 27 minutes, 27 secondsit was introduced a bit like boiling a frog in water. I mean, not everything was introduced at once and it kind of 27 minutes, 35 secondswas sort of go along and then there’d be like a a jump in, you know, exposure to something new until eventually, you know, I was fully kitted out with it. 27 minutes, 46 secondsBut it took months and it required a support structure around me of covert human 27 minutes, 56 secondsintelligence sources who were in one way or another able to support me through that 28 minutes, 2 secondsand that was well it wouldn’t have been possible otherwise and then yeah 28 minutes, 10 secondsso very difficult but because there was a threat threat of sanction at any time you know like if someone is going through that in 28 minutes, 18 secondspreparation for something that’s upcoming and there is there is a real risk and I acknowledge it. I acknowledge 28 minutes, 26 secondsit now. There’s a real risk that person is going to go into a flat spin and fall apart and you have to be disciplinarian. 28 minutes, 37 secondsLet me say you you otherwise this person’s going to go off the rails. I [laughter] nearly I nearly went off the rails. And 28 minutes, 45 secondsdid you then remove this implant? I mean, when you were starting to when you were confiding in other people and you you found out that this was because of 28 minutes, 53 secondsthis dental implant that you were, you know, getting these messages and did you have it removed? Did you try to do it covertly? What did you do? 29 minutes, 1 secondNo. Such a thing would have been absolutely unthinkable because the way the the the equipment operates is in 29 minutes, 11 secondsbasically in in real time and you know the idea that I could even think of 29 minutes, 18 secondsreporting it to for example to the police was totally off the table. you know, I wasn’t allowed to go within a 29 minutes, 26 secondscertain amount of, you know, certain radius of of a police station and especially in in the early days. And 29 minutes, 35 secondsthen if if I even, you know, moved in that direction, it would be made very clear to me that, you know, you you’re not going in there, mate. 29 minutes, 44 secondsAnd so, yeah. 29 minutes, 45 secondsCan you just give me an example? Well, I mean, it’s so it’s mind-blowing, but if you’re so you’re out on a case, you’re dealing with, you know, you’ve got a a source or 29 minutes, 53 secondssomething like that you’re that you’re dealing with as in a in a in the field, so to speak. 30 minutesHow can you give me the application of how it might be used? Would you be sitting there interacting with a a confidential source or something like 30 minutes, 8 secondsthat and suddenly you’re receiving sort of messages from from headquarters? 30 minutes, 13 secondsNot really. It was mainly used to move from one place to another to and in the cases where my 30 minutes, 23 secondsbasic communication system like I tried to keep things as as normal as possible you know so that would be a mobile phone 30 minutes, 32 secondsto most people. and so every opportunity I had would be done the 30 minutes, 38 secondstraditional way. And so the only reasons that I would really be leaning into that 30 minutes, 44 secondssystem, and I did, would be when my means of communication completely went down. So I’d run out of batteries. I was 30 minutes, 53 secondsfar away from being able to resolve that situation. I needed to move from one place to another. it wasn’t entirely clear to me where I should be heading to 31 minutes, 2 secondsor there was a priority that absolutely needed to be dealt with and that I had to make make myself available in such 31 minutes, 10 secondsand such a location to do such and such a job. 31 minutes, 14 secondsAnd they would I I’m just sort of picturing this as a lay person. There’s somebody in a booth somewhere almost like a skiff 31 minutes, 22 secondswith a with with a communications box and they just press the the RAF button and they deliver like an audio message 31 minutes, 31 secondsto you or is it like some sort of a textbased message that you’re able to understand that I need to leave here now? 31 minutes, 37 secondsNo, I think there would be I I would have already been generally appraised of what I needed to do and so that you know 31 minutes, 48 secondsit would be quite obvious what I was thinking at any moment point in time. 31 minutes, 53 secondsAnd so, you know, the the best route with me was always to kind of nudge me in one way or another. And as I 32 minutesmentioned to to Jesse before that could be the use of in fact was the use of um 32 minutes, 8 secondslike I want to say a jingle but that’s just the wrong word like clips clips of music or like a refrain from something 32 minutes, 16 secondslike that was very obvious that this was the link and that was where I you know 32 minutes, 24 secondsso I was responding to your thoughts like you’re not speaking out loud you’re just thinking something. I’m kind of stuck in this situation. 32 minutes, 32 secondsI’m not quite sure if I should go right or right or left. 32 minutes, 35 secondsIt’s not Yeah. I mean, the thing is like there there was there was a degree of of uncertainty like in this approach. I 32 minutes, 43 secondsIt’s not certainly like 10 years ago or you know we’re talking about when I 32 minutes, 51 secondswas was doing this was between 2016 to 2018. 32 minutes, 55 secondsIn the beginning, it was a bit like hit and miss. I’ve got to say it wasn’t always like they weren’t picking up everything that I was thinking at all. 33 minutes, 5 secondsYou know, they would make mistakes and I can actually document that. And in fact, I’ve provided evidence of that to the to 33 minutes, 12 secondsthis tribunal. It wasn’t completely cut and dry that absolutely everything. So there was a degree of um 33 minutes, 21 secondserror let me say involved in that. I generally knew when I went left the 33 minutes, 27 secondshouse or left the house of like a covert intelligence source I I generally knew what it was I needed to do. There 33 minutes, 36 secondsmight be a bit of uncertainty here and there about how I needed to get there. 33 minutes, 41 secondsAnd over time you build up a kind of store of light motifs. I I I don’t don’t 33 minutes, 50 secondsreally know the word. It’s it’s an very strange corner of tradecraft that 33 minutes, 59 secondsyou can provide an image or provide a a jingle or perhaps some other you know a 34 minutes, 6 secondssound and that would like be associated with something or that that would be the 34 minutes, 14 secondsthe signal let me say a signal would be the best the best way to describe it. I mean, that would be the traditional way to describe it. Um, to do X or Y. 34 minutes, 26 secondsJesse, am I missing anything? 34 minutes, 27 secondsReceive. Sorry. Don’t expect to receive like really detailed detailed. 34 minutes, 33 secondsYeah. I just I’m just shocked by the idea that you Well, I’m just shocked by the idea that they could sort of read your thoughts, you know, that they they could read your 34 minutes, 40 secondsthoughts and it started out not very well and then it progressed to a point when they were able to more readily read your thoughts over time. 34 minutes, 49 secondsUm, yeah. Yeah. I think that was the I think that was the technology though. I like to I don’t know. I mean, I I’d be they got better at what they were doing. 35 minutesI think that that was it. And I would sometimes notice like a change and it was like you’ve had a software upgrade somewhere along the line and yeah, it’s 35 minutes, 9 secondsgot noticeably better. It’s uh, you know, a lot the error rate is dropping and um, yeah. 35 minutes, 17 secondsYeah. Jesse, your thoughts? I mean, did I miss something there? I’m just, you have to, you know, you guys again swim in this for the last, you know, many, many 35 minutes, 25 secondsdecades. So, for me as a lay person, learning that these intelligence agencies would implant something in a dental capacity without your without your knowledge. 35 minutes, 36 secondsYou had no knowledge of it. And then to find out that they’re able to start to read your thoughts and guide you as an intelligence asset is stunning to me. So 35 minutes, 44 secondsJesse, I don’t know, just your thoughts on Yeah. No. Well, you know, it’s very typical. 35 minutes, 49 secondsYou know, I’ve been covering this, like I said, for since 2010, and I’m pretty verse on on the topic. And what he is 35 minutes, 57 secondsdescribing is the typical synthetic telepathy that a lot of the experiencers talk about where your your thoughts um 36 minutes, 6 secondswhat you see everything that you’re experiencing in your environment is 36 minutes, 12 secondsbeing monitored and captured through this RF Havana syndrome uh 36 minutes, 21 secondsphenomenon. And you know what are we talking about? We’re really talking about how the MK Ultra phenomenon has 36 minutes, 31 secondsbasically accelerated with technology on steroids. 36 minutes, 37 secondsyou know, back in the MK Ultra days where they were doing electrical shock therapy, drug therapies, 36 minutes, 45 secondsuh, utilizing hypnosis, which has been significantly covered up because the predominance 36 minutes, 52 secondsof hypnosis in getting people to do things that they would not normally do against their moral compass has been 37 minutes, 1 secondthe ultimate carrot that most intelligence agencies government agencies, military agencies 37 minutes, 9 secondshave been seeking and MK Ultra developed into 150 sub projects that we’re aware of. It could be more. And on June 30th, 37 minutes, 19 secondsAnapolina Luna, they held a hearing on whether or not MK Ultra did happen 37 minutes, 26 secondsand is it still going on? And what was interesting in that hearing is that they made inferences. many of the the 37 minutes, 36 secondsparticipants there were questioning the witnesses and they were making inferences about RF emissions directed 37 minutes, 45 secondsenergy weapons. So they are aware that this is happening and what what Rafe is 37 minutes, 52 secondsdescribing is how intrusive and cognitively this can be to someone. In 37 minutes, 58 secondsfact, um, in in Ra’s initial interview, he eloquently expressed how it pissed 38 minutes, 5 secondshim off and he demanded that they stop communicating with that him that way and then he wanted to go back to traditional 38 minutes, 13 secondsmeans like the electronic dropboxes, the email type scenarios. Um, and so 38 minutes, 21 secondsthat that was quite striking because he he had leverage. He has a unique skill 38 minutes, 27 secondsset that most humans do not because if I think if he did not have that skill set of being in in the magnetometry field uh 38 minutes, 36 secondsand his expertise they probably would have just left the system go and and he 38 minutes, 44 secondsmay not be speaking to us today. That’s that’s my opinion but that is exactly what he’s talking about. Now when we 38 minutes, 51 secondstalk about multiaceted you know the communication synthetic telepathy aspect of it we we just covered then if you get out of line he was talking about they’ll 39 minutesturn it up a little bit and it becomes a torture device. That is exactly what every victim out there that I that comes 39 minutes, 8 secondsto me expresses that this is a 24/7 365 day a year torture. And not only is that happening 39 minutes, 18 secondshere in the United States, I get calls for help all over the globe at this time. And then ultimately, we now know that it can be a a lethal weapon. 39 minutes, 30 seconds we know what happened down in V Venezuela. President Trump said they used the discombobulator and he probably 39 minutes, 39 secondsshouldn’t have talked about it, but he slipped up and it brought attention to that to what was that? They were they’re specifically talking about Rafe is 39 minutes, 47 secondsdescribing directed energy pulse beam frequencies and this is why it’s a multiaceted 39 minutes, 56 secondssystem. Could I ask you the people that you’re talking about that have t, you know, talked about the 247 torture, 40 minutes, 3 secondsum, do they have some sort of an implant that like like Rafe has or is this something that they’re able to do remotely from 100 yards away, 200 yards 40 minutes, 12 secondsaway, even miles away on a regular basis? Like, you know, I’ve talked to CIA whistleblowers who’ve obviously see vans sort of just parked outside of 40 minutes, 20 secondstheir home with directed energy weapons sort of aimed right at them. So, can you talk about that piece of it? 40 minutes, 29 secondsYeah, exactly. Well, it’s a it’s a very good question and it’s important that everyone watching understands what what you’re referring to. In my personal 40 minutes, 38 secondsopinion, you know, on May 8th of 2024, Colonel Greg Egging, retired Colonel Greg Egging gave testimony that indeed 40 minutes, 47 secondsthat this phenomenon is happening here on our homeland, not only to the best of our best in the FBI, CIA, but we now know that it’s happening to 40 minutes, 55 secondscongressional members. Um, and this is he he decides on the slow duration, long-term exposure as being a slow kill. 41 minutes, 5 secondsThe system is designed to make a person look like they are crazy. Okay. Now, um 41 minutes, 12 secondsin Rafe’s case, he does have that documentation of of that dental implant, 41 minutes, 19 secondsbut when I was there, we did test him and we were able to show that there is a 41 minutes, 28 secondsvisual frequency that we can show on a graph that is emitting from his person. 41 minutes, 33 seconds we also used what was called a nonlinear junction detection which is a type of device that checks for silicon 41 minutes, 41 secondsharmonics. Now silicon is an every electronic semiconductor out there that 41 minutes, 47 secondsis made. Now this back prior to the pandemic 41 minutes, 53 seconds I would test people and quite often if they were not symptomatic they would test negative 42 minutes, 1 secondand all of my victims who were symptomatic did test positive. Now what 42 minutes, 8 secondsis happening post pandemic everyone is testing positive for a semiconductive 42 minutes, 16 secondsharmonic. What does that mean? We know that a lot of the nanotech that is that was now being proven that was in 42 minutes, 23 secondsthe injections is there this nanotech nano robots 42 minutes, 32 secondswhatever you want to call it. They’re one 2,000 times the width of a hair. 42 minutes, 35 secondsThey’re self assembling, self-replicating. They cross the bloodb brain barrier and they have they contain graphine and they contain 42 minutes, 45 secondssilicon which are amplifiers. So the ampl the amplification of signals to receive and transmit are enhanced. So I 42 minutes, 54 secondshave taken people two two miles down into granite caverns in Jackson California and we would test to see if 43 minutes, 3 secondsthere were still signal detections and even deep down 2 miles down in under granite we were still detecting that. 43 minutes, 12 secondsThe bottom line is that no matter where you go on the planet, if you have been turned on in this system, you cannot 43 minutes, 19 secondsescape that signal. Um, I recently was down in California. I was hired by a 43 minutes, 26 secondsclient because he had created a lawsuit, sued his perpetrators, and he 43 minutes, 34 secondsactually won, but he believed that it was happening again. And so he wanted me to come down and test his environment to see whether 43 minutes, 42 secondsor not I could find anything. And to my surprise, we were documenting pulseed 43 minutes, 50 seconds microwave emissions and which were predominantly strongest up in the 43 minutes, 57 secondsupper levels of his home. so what he’s experiencing now is exactly that. 44 minutes, 3 secondsUm, and and that is that is that is where we’re at today. 44 minutes, 10 secondsUltimately, we we now know all the white papers are out, the scientific studies are out. We know that basically there 44 minutes, 18 secondswas a Trojan horse and the entire human species has been duped. You have been nonconsensually 44 minutes, 25 secondsexperimented on and basically infiltrated with this type of technology. 44 minutes, 33 secondsNow the problem is is that this is completely legal to do under the 21st century cures act under President Obama 44 minutes, 42 secondsunder section 3024. It is legal to experiment on US citizens as long as it doesn’t exceed minimal risk criteria. So 44 minutes, 51 secondsthe question is what is minimal risk criteria? And the answer to that is nothing that doesn’t happen in normal everyday life. 45 minutesDoes death happen in normal everyday life? And the answer is yes. And you have the fox basically governing the hen 45 minutes, 8 secondshouse. And all that data that they are collecting under quote unquote experimentation is protected by national security 45 minutes, 16 secondsprotocols. Even if you did a foyer request, you’re not going to be able to obtain that information because they’ll claim national security. 45 minutes, 27 secondsBut we’re hopeful if Paulina Luna is sincere and we’re not just going to say 45 minutes, 34 secondsyes, we’ve proven that MK Ultra happened in the past and and really what needs to happen is they need to bring witnesses 45 minutes, 44 secondswho are experiencers in this. I will say this, I have the world’s largest 45 minutes, 50 secondsindependent database on Havana syndrome victims, AHI victims, electronic terrorism, whatever you want to call it, 45 minutes, 58 secondsit’s all the same thing. And I’m a master hypnotist for one reason. Because I wanted to understand 46 minutes, 7 secondsh how people with million-dollar businesses and educations, PhDs, doctors, lawyers, attorneys, judges, you name it, every 46 minutes, 16 secondsspectr of life has come to me asking for help. How do we fight this? And these very intelligent people, their 46 minutes, 24 secondslives were being destroyed mainly because they were voicing to the world what was happening to them. And it was by design. They were being isolated. 46 minutes, 37 secondsTheir licenses were being taken away. 46 minutes, 39 secondsDoctors were not being allowed to touch patients anymore. Even though I knew they weren’t crazy, what they were suffering was legitimate. Um, but they 46 minutes, 48 secondswere all being railroaded into the mental health industry, force medicated, force institutionalized 46 minutes, 55 secondsor put through if it was a medical board under rigorous rigorous just um 47 minutes, 3 secondsundeserved scrutiny and made to just do things that a normal person should never. And these 47 minutes, 11 secondsmedical boards basically there’s nothing you can do against them legally and and that is the problem. That is the dynamics that we’re dealing with. 47 minutes, 22 secondsUnfortunately, our health system has been weaponized against us. 47 minutes, 27 seconds the Havana syndrome exists. You can’t get away from that signal no matter where you go. And it’s time that people start waking up. It’s time that our 47 minutes, 36 secondsofficials that we hire, we pay for our tax dollars, start representing us and we need to band together and stop this 47 minutes, 43 secondsdivide and conquer and and really hand in hand bind together to take our power back. Well, let’s pause the interview 47 minutes, 51 secondsfor a minute. We’ll get right back to it. But first, I’ve taken supplements for years and one of the most frustrating things I’ve known is how much of what you’re taking might be flushing straight through your body. 48 minutes, 1 secondyou’re literally like peeing it out, wasting money in the process. So, when I heard about the absorption company, I had to try them. 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Uh, you talked about obviously the basic 49 minutes, 53 secondslevel of communications with this dental implant, but then obviously Jesse mentioned cancer and you and your wife simultaneously. So, was there a point at 50 minutes, 1 secondwhich I don’t want to say you went rogue, but you went in an opposite direction and they decided to pull you back through this torture? 50 minutes, 10 secondsNo. No. I actually it was was part of the job description and that was that 50 minutes, 17 secondsthere I call it 21st century war driving. I don’t know if you know what that is but there used to be with the advent of wireless networks. 50 minutes, 28 secondsPeople would go around to try and find network vulnerabilities. You’d set up basically a a you know a wireless uh 50 minutes, 36 secondsrouter detector on your car. You drive around. You would so you know basically soak up as many wireless networks as you 50 minutes, 44 secondscould and find passwords which were easy to crack. You’d then make that data available. people would take advantage, 50 minutes, 51 secondsset up botn nets, whatever. You know, it was a kind of it it was a practice by people who were interested, but it was 51 minutesalso done routinely by the intelligence services because it’s an absolute must to be able to understand all aspects of 51 minutes, 8 secondsyour electromagnetic environment if you are able to control it. And so that happens routinely. 51 minutes, 16 secondsmy job or a a part of it or a good 51 minutes, 24 secondsmaybe like 14 15 months was to do something similar and to basically 51 minutes, 32 secondswar drive around the capital in in the UK and in certain other locations to try 51 minutes, 40 secondsand get people to raise their heads above the parapit with this technology. 51 minutes, 46 secondstechnology and it was through that that I was exposed to a lot of harmful radiation. 51 minutes, 58 seconds[clears throat] 51 minutes, 58 secondsand I think after a while that kind of that stacked up and because 52 minutes, 5 secondswell I was an agent I was living embedded within the community and there was no place for me to go home to other than my home. 52 minutes, 16 secondsSo that then you you’d bring your work home with you, I guess, would be would be the the best way to describe it in 52 minutes, 25 secondsa kind of glib way. And that I can only assume exposed my girlfriend at 52 minutes, 34 secondsthat time to this to the to something similar because we both came down with exactly the same answer within six months of each other. 52 minutes, 46 secondsand we both had to undergo surgery. You know, it was a very harrowing time because, you know, we had kids and so on 52 minutes, 53 secondsand suddenly both parents were, you know, out of combat, so to speak. And um 53 minutesyeah, I I maintain and I that certainly in my case and I suspect hers as well 53 minutes, 7 secondsthat it was you know occupational hazard induced that whether it was done deliberately 53 minutes, 16 secondsor whether it was you know sort of collateral damage from you know it’s hard to say but certainly 53 minutes, 25 secondsand maybe there was some underlying factors that would have contributed to it. But certainly that was an accelerant and the idea that we both come down in 53 minutes, 34 secondsgood cancer like within 6 months is you know strange to say the least. So yes I I I maintain that it was workrelated 53 minutes, 43 secondsand quite quite comfortable making that claim really. 53 minutes, 46 secondsCould you talk about some of the other more advanced directed energy weapons? 53 minutes, 50 secondsAgain, we’ve talked about the communication piece to just sort of move people in a certain direction, but can you talk about some of what Jesse was talking about 53 minutes, 59 secondswhere it’s sort of a global infrastructure and is far more nefarious? 54 minutes, 5 secondsYeah, you know, that was never really my in my purview. Let’s let’s say the sort 54 minutes, 14 secondsof the wider networks. I think it’s totally fair to say from my perspective that these systems of communication are 54 minutes, 23 secondsreliant on you know the public wireless communication network anyway 54 minutes, 30 secondsthe systems that are used they are passive they’re rerdiative they require 54 minutes, 37 secondsa certain amount of well in my case anyway they require a certain amount of pumping radiation which is applied 54 minutes, 46 secondsexternally. If it doesn’t receive that, there isn’t really the likelihood that it would certainly in the positions 54 minutes, 53 secondswhere they are in my jaw, it wouldn’t get out of the mouth, the signal. It would be attenuated by my cheek. 55 minutes, 2 secondsBut with the pumping arrangement, then it has a much higher gain and it can 55 minutes, 9 secondsYeah, it can it’s still very weak, but it can be detected. And Jesse was impressively actually able to detect it 55 minutes, 18 secondsand we had he managed his colleague managed to get it all on camera which is fantastic. 55 minutes, 24 seconds so there’s one side that is related to the wider electromagnetic environment. However, in order to um 55 minutes, 34 secondsyou know you can probably broadcast a signal pretty easily actually. You can find videos online of people with speech jammers. 55 minutes, 41 secondsYes, you need a line of sight for that, but the principle is still the same. 55 minutes, 46 secondsInstead of like transmitting tartini tones, it’s known as hetradining. And you can like pass two electromagnetic 55 minutes, 54 secondsfrequencies that superimpose on one another and they produce a they produce it’s demodulated by the skull and it can 56 minutes, 2 secondsproduce kind of an internal voice. Let me say that’s pretty standard. it’s wellnown. It’s uncontroversial in many 56 minutes, 11 secondsways and you don’t need line of sight for that as electromagnetic frequencies can obviously pass through walls and 56 minutes, 18 secondswhat have you. So there’s that side and that is infrastructure based and there is the other thing that is truly let 56 minutes, 26 secondsme say directed and in that sense you have someone sitting [clears throat] behind a piece of equipment that is 56 minutes, 33 secondsaiming or locking on to your position in order to deliver 56 minutes, 40 secondsyeah a certain amount of power and whether what the mechanism of delivery of that is can vary. So on the one 56 minutes, 50 secondshand you have very simple systems that are designed to deliver just highowered microwaves 56 minutes, 58 secondspulsed or not even pulsed. I’ve experienced very rudimentary systems 57 minutes, 5 secondsthat clearly not from you know they’re not peer adversaries let me say and in a 57 minutes, 12 secondsin a way I think they’re in a sense more dangerous because there is you know even if you weren’t trying to use them 57 minutes, 21 secondsin a lethal manner you might end up you know doing so unintentionally. 57 minutes, 27 secondsUm, and so there’s on that side, but then you you you know you know, again, it sounds ridiculous that I put 57 minutes, 35 secondsit like this. You know, quality when you see it. And that sounds ridiculous, but it’s true. I mean, the subtlety of 57 minutes, 43 secondsthe effect is displays the level of technological advancement of the person on the other 57 minutes, 52 secondsend. And so for example there are systems that can direct particle 57 minutes, 59 secondsbeams that is really the kind of exotic end and then with that you can well it depends what scale you’re using. 58 minutes, 7 secondsTypically these things are in low earth orbit and you know you could direct it down onto a target on earth and you’re 58 minutes, 15 secondsnot going to generally speaking unless that’s you know use that on an individual unless they’re the president of of of a country or so on but then you 58 minutes, 24 secondshave much smaller devices that do the same thing but again that is the sort of higher end of the technology spectrum 58 minutes, 31 secondsthat is not I wouldn’t say that’s particularly common case and then in between those two things you have a kind of spectrum. 58 minutes, 42 seconds so you have things that are really sophisticated surveillance devices you know let me say 58 minutes, 50 secondsany old any old fool could set up a microwave gun. I mean I could probably do that and you could like get a really 58 minutes, 58 secondshigh power generator and direct it at someone. I would never do that. But I think that that’s not beyond the capability 59 minutes, 6 secondsof you know your average person in the street given enough time and given enough you know enough information on 59 minutes, 15 secondshow to do it. But certainly when you move to the level of you know the surveillance devices that is incredibly 59 minutes, 22 secondsdelicate sensitive precision engineering equipment you know it uses a technique 59 minutes, 28 secondscalled optical phase inter interpherometry and actually it’s not optical 59 minutes, 36 secondsthat’s used for creating holograms but there’s a microwave phase in inter intererometry technique which is used 59 minutes, 43 secondsfor surveillance and it scatters back information from the target, 59 minutes, 50 secondsyou know, the object of interest, your surveillance interest, and that can provide a very detailed volutric view of what you’re looking at. 1 hourNow, to in order to, you know, create that kind of system, you need Yeah, that requires, you know, very high high techch, high precision engineering. 1 hour, 12 secondsYou know, we’re talking about Yeah. 1 hour, 14 secondsextremely accurate pieces of antenna systems. We’re talking about very um 1 hour, 23 secondscomplex circuitry, control circuitry and so on. And then on the the other side of that is if you’re going to use 1 hour, 32 secondsthose sort of things for surveillance and you actually want to get involved in the communications two-way 1 hour, 39 secondscommunications game. Well, then you have your a whole other issue of signals 1 hour, 46 secondsinterpretation that requires like machine learning or you know artificial intelligence to use that term loosely 1 hour, 55 secondsin order to get your return signal and so to do that requires you know a high 1 hour, 1 minute, 3 secondsdegree of technological advancement. The thing is, you know, this technology was first, you 1 hour, 1 minute, 9 secondsknow, debuted back in the late ‘7s. You know, the Moscow signal and the thing and all those other things you can go 1 hour, 1 minute, 17 secondsand read about. It’s in the declassified pieces in the National Archives. 1 hour, 1 minute, 22 secondsYou know, that was further, you know, further back in time than I’ve been alive. And in that time, 1 hour, 1 minute, 31 secondsthere has been no letup. you know the competition global competition has not changed. It’s not abated and in many 1 hour, 1 minute, 38 secondssenses it’s got you know more complicated and the only way to sort of stay a breast or stay afloat rather it’s 1 hour, 1 minute, 46 secondsprobably the better word isn’t it that is to maintain your edge in the technological space and this is you know 1 hour, 1 minute, 54 secondswhere you find this technology is the bleeding edge if there’s any like any news items recently in the past year that everyone 1 hour, 2 minutes, 1 secondelse has been so consumed by and you’ve sort of sat back and said that’s I know what that 1 hour, 2 minutes, 7 secondsis. That’s the work of of X, Y, and Z directed energy weapon, whether it’s, you know, the Maui wildfires or God 1 hour, 2 minutes, 17 secondsknows what else. I can’t wrap my head around it. But is there anything you’re aware of that people would just have their their jaws a gape? 1 hour, 2 minutes, 26 secondsYeah. Well, you’ve used the right expression there actually because it’s known in the business as jaw-dropping. 1 hour, 2 minutes, 34 secondsAnd as I hug to to Jesse the other day, it’s probably because you couldn’t use the term e ees eavesdropping. It’s something something slightly different. 1 hour, 2 minutes, 42 secondsBut actually that’s the humorous my h the humor in my response is is gallows 1 hour, 2 minutes, 51 secondshumor really because this technology can be used in extremely lethal way. 1 hour, 2 minutes, 58 seconds yes, there have been times when I’ve seen something and I’ve thought to myself, well gosh, yeah, if I’m a I’m a 1 hour, 3 minutes, 6 secondsbet, you know, if I’m a betting guy, I can tell you exactly what has happened here. There’s no doubt in my mind how such and such a thing has been 1 hour, 3 minutes, 14 secondsaccomplished or so. Yes, that does happen. It hasn’t happened for a little while. you know 1 hour, 3 minutes, 21 secondsI can say that I watch sometimes debates between you know very eminent and very 1 hour, 3 minutes, 28 seconds what’s the word smart people in the online world debating things like you know can’t remember what it’s called now 1 hour, 3 minutes, 36 secondsghost murmur and yes you know I I I see that they are grappling with the normal 1 hour, 3 minutes, 44 secondsstandard physics ideas about how such a thing could work but unless you understand that what would these systems 1 hour, 3 minutes, 52 secondsare dealing with a certain amount of pulse pumped radiation. They’re reraiiating devices. They’re not like 1 hour, 3 minutes, 59 secondsharvesting in in my experience, you know, biological energy. It it’s it’s related 1 hour, 4 minutes, 7 secondsto that. You can tell someone’s heartbeat because the whole system is integrated with your own biological 1 hour, 4 minutes, 14 secondselectro biological bioelectric field. so yes, you could detect 1 hour, 4 minutes, 21 secondssomeone’s heartbeat but the manner in which you get a signal is not via you know that providing its own power. No, 1 hour, 4 minutes, 29 secondsthat wouldn’t work. But if you pump a device and it’s rerairadiating then you know you can start to get especially if 1 hour, 4 minutes, 38 secondsyou’re know observing from 40 km away but you making the assumption that you’re observing like horizontally. No 1 hour, 4 minutes, 45 secondsyou’re observing from straight up there’s actually that’s an unimpeded low attenuation path into low earth 1 hour, 4 minutes, 52 secondsorbit and that’s probably how you’re getting your signal. So yes, so when I’m looking at these things being talked 1 hour, 5 minutes, 1 secondabout in the mainstream the mainstream you know town hall let me say I see a very you know 1 hour, 5 minutes, 10 secondsrational reasonable wellought through scientific reactions but once you know the kind of tricks of the trade let me 1 hour, 5 minutes, 18 secondssay and they that’s what it is then you know it’s like any old any magic trick it becomes a little more yeah a little 1 hour, 5 minutes, 27 secondsless interesting once you know how it’s done. 1 hour, 5 minutes, 30 secondsJesse, anything stand out to you of recent news events that you said? Yeah. 1 hour, 5 minutes, 36 secondsYeah. Well, you know, the G ghost murmur was pretty significant. You know, that’s the pilot that was downed in [snorts] Iran, how they were able to locate him. 1 hour, 5 minutes, 45 secondsUm, and you know, the the tracking his heartbeat, correct? They were able to see the 1 hour, 5 minutes, 53 secondssignal. Um, and that’s what Rafe is is describing. Um, and you had asked earlier, you know, you had mentioned, 1 hour, 6 minutes, 1 secondyou know, you’ve spoken to CIA agents and are talking about this device being aimed at them. That happens in very 1 hour, 6 minutes, 8 seconds[clears throat] few cases. And I believe it’s a scops and it’s done on purpose because they don’t want the majority of the population to understand that this 1 hour, 6 minutes, 17 secondsis the only way this is a global event is because it’s exactly what Brief described. It’s in our orbit. This is 1 hour, 6 minutes, 24 secondscoming from satellite. It’s a complete network that’s integrated with our groundbased systems. Uhhuh. And and and 1 hour, 6 minutes, 32 secondsultimately, if they can find this this downpilot’s heart signature, why aren’t 1 hour, 6 minutes, 39 secondswe using technology in a way to find all these missing children, people that go missing? The Gutridge case. why 1 hour, 6 minutes, 48 secondsdidn’t they use it? because they could have they would have been able to read that pacemaker. Why why aren’t these 1 hour, 6 minutes, 57 secondstechnologies being disclosed? And the issue is because it’s about power and dominance. And once they 1 hour, 7 minutes, 6 secondscontrol the entire globe, then you have one unification, you have basically a global government. 1 hour, 7 minutes, 14 secondsHere’s what needs to happen. Right now we know with this phenomenon they can a lot of the victims talk about how 1 hour, 7 minutes, 23 secondstheir thoughts are being read. Okay, very intrusive everything that they see, visualize, experience. 1 hour, 7 minutes, 31 secondsSo that’s being retransmitted and that’s called metadata. And the issue is metadata is not illegal to capture and 1 hour, 7 minutes, 38 secondsour government is capturing in in mass grows. I strongly feel and and many others and experts are feel that a 1 hour, 7 minutes, 47 secondslot of these data centers the United States has 4,000 data centers currently and is building more. Why do they need these huge capacities to capture data? 1 hour, 7 minutes, 58 secondsThe bottom line is is that metadata is your intellectual property and they’re profiting off of your intellectual property. 1 hour, 8 minutes, 8 secondsAnd it’s it’s very important that everyone understands that once the human brain has been conquered, your thoughts when they are 1 hour, 8 minutes, 17 secondsno longer private, you are no longer a free species. Um 1 hour, 8 minutes, 24 secondsyou everything if you have a great idea or a great technology that you want to develop 1 hour, 8 minutes, 34 secondsthat can be stolen from you and there’s nothing that you can do about it. There are many states that are waking up now that are now coming up with laws to 1 hour, 8 minutes, 41 secondsprotect your cognitive freedom. because you know that’s one aspect of it. The other aspect of is what about 1 hour, 8 minutes, 50 secondsfuture crimes? Can you be prosecuted for your thoughts? these predictive algorithms because all of this mass data 1 hour, 8 minutes, 59 seconds remember this data is the crack cocaine for Silicon Valley. all of these 1 hour, 9 minutes, 4 secondstech giants and what is the ability for your children and your generations to their generations to come, your 1 hour, 9 minutes, 13 secondsgreat-grandchildren to live a free life? Are you really free when your thoughts are no longer your 1 hour, 9 minutes, 21 secondsown? That’s the other aspect. We now know that through the New World Vista’s report that and and prior to 1 hour, 9 minutes, 30 secondsthat other reports that were released about doing experimentation on prisoners who were incarcerated in 1 hour, 9 minutes, 39 secondsprison, specifically in California, even back in 1974, they were already talking about being able to remotely read 1 hour, 9 minutes, 49 secondsbiometrics. And in that report it said including reading thoughts. 1 hour, 9 minutes, 54 secondsThat is the world we live in today. That is what we’re facing. Because if you can 1 hour, 10 minutes, 1 seconderase memory sets with this technology and imprint memory sets, you will never know that they weren’t your thoughts. As 1 hour, 10 minutes, 9 secondsa hypnotherapist, if I was unethical, I know that this can be done. 1 hour, 10 minutes, 18 seconds[clears throat] 1 hour, 10 minutes, 18 secondsAnd that is what everyone as a human species needs 1 hour, 10 minutes, 26 secondsto consider. We need to have some serious discussions about this. We need to really start putting people in 1 hour, 10 minutes, 33 secondspositions of power who are really going to understand. 1 hour, 10 minutes, 38 secondsYou know, you can only climb so far to the top, but those at the top, what do you think is going to happen when they’ve completely accomplished their 1 hour, 10 minutes, 46 secondsmission? They’re no longer going to need these captains, colonels, and so forth underneath them. Even they are susceptible and they have family too. 1 hour, 10 minutes, 55 secondsYou they have children. their children are not going to be immune to this. So this is going to affect 99% of 1 hour, 11 minutes, 4 secondseveryone. That 1% and I can tell you why the 1% that elite 1% believes that they are the only one smart enough to 1 hour, 11 minutes, 13 secondsdecide what happens to you. In 2011, I was invited to the presidential bioeththics commission held in San 1 hour, 11 minutes, 21 secondsFrancisco at you the UCSF there at the teaching hospital and Amy Gutman was the head. and she was appointed by 1 hour, 11 minutes, 28 secondsPresident Obama and I was I was going to be allowed to ask a question and because they were doing they were talking about 1 hour, 11 minutes, 36 secondscapturing all data on the human genome project and my question that I wrote my assistant wrote this as she was a witness there and I said I understand 1 hour, 11 minutes, 45 secondsthe importance for your experimentation but what safeguards do you put aside for when your experimentation goes wrong 1 hour, 11 minutes, 53 secondsand every major news network was there and when she read the card she tore covered up and she says this statement, 1 hour, 12 minutes, 2 seconds”We are the elite 1% of the top 1% that should decide what happens, what people 1 hour, 12 minutes, 10 secondsdo to their bodies because people are too dumb to make the right decision. 1 hour, 12 minutes, 18 secondsThat’s what they believe at the top.” Rafe, I’ll get you out of here on this. 1 hour, 12 minutes, 23 secondsUm, you’ve been so gracious with your time and we I could do another three hours with you and I hope that we will I hope that you’ll come back and we can dive far 1 hour, 12 minutes, 31 secondsmore deeply into all of this. But what what concerns you the most about the future and the future use of this technology? Jesse mentioned the MK Ultra 1 hour, 12 minutes, 40 secondshearings which I think in many ways were a farce because to his point, yeah, we of course we know MK Ultra existed. It’s just now morphed into 1 hour, 12 minutes, 48 secondssomething far more nefarious and it’s now way bigger than it’s, you know, was back in the 1960s and 70s. Um, in ways 1 hour, 12 minutes, 57 secondsthat we don’t have a name for it. We probably don’t understand how nefarious and widespread it actually is. So, I guess I’ll just ask you, what are you most concerned about with this 1 hour, 13 minutes, 5 secondstechnology? Where do you think our biggest blind spots are? 1 hour, 13 minutes, 10 secondsWell, that’s a very good point, a very qu good question. And Jesse raised the great point which is that no one is 1 hour, 13 minutes, 19 secondsimmune to this. There’s not a human being that can resist this technology if it is leveraged 1 hour, 13 minutes, 26 secondsagainst them. You know the again the expression resistance is futile. It really is. There’s absolutely nothing you can do about it. if if it’s 1 hour, 13 minutes, 36 secondsdecided one way or another that you are going to be the the the beneficiary of its effects, right? 1 hour, 13 minutes, 46 seconds so there’s that. So, I would say that, you know, it’s one thing to be in the driver’s seat right now, and that’s 1 hour, 13 minutes, 55 secondsall well and good, and you have your fingers on the levers and whatever else, and you’re the one who can call the shots and, you know, make the decisions 1 hour, 14 minutes, 3 secondsabout who gets, you know, a dose of electricity here or or whatever it is. Um, that situation is 1 hour, 14 minutes, 13 secondsalways liable to change. And I think, you know, nowhere is that more at no time in history has that been a more 1 hour, 14 minutes, 22 secondspressing or more relevant idea than in this day and age when things can change in a week. Different systems can come 1 hour, 14 minutes, 30 secondsinto existence in in a few days. And so I think that you know that should be kept in mind by 1 hour, 14 minutes, 38 secondsthe people who are quite sort of lay about the use of this technology. The other thing I would say is that until 1 hour, 14 minutes, 46 secondsthere is a recognition of you know an acknowledgement even if it’s 1 hour, 14 minutes, 53 secondsjust the simple stuff that is you know for example you know LRADS or you know 1 hour, 15 minutes, 1 secondvoice to skull systems using acoustic laser devices you know things of that nature like 1 hour, 15 minutes, 9 secondsthat’s very easy it’s well accepted it’s in the peer-reviewed literature But it’s I don’t think in the UK for example it’s even been acknowledged. 1 hour, 15 minutes, 18 secondsNow that leaves a huge blind spot because until you actually call things out and the public is made gener 1 hour, 15 minutes, 27 secondsgenerally aware of them you can’t develop policy around it. I mean everything you do is couched in vague 1 hour, 15 minutes, 36 secondsterms or catchall ideas which is this a very rich environment for 1 hour, 15 minutes, 43 secondsproducing loopholes and so the other thing I see and certainly from my own experiences that 1 hour, 15 minutes, 51 secondslike on the one hand I can I’m now far enough there’s enough distance between 1 hour, 15 minutes, 59 secondslike my time and now that I look back on those that time and sort of 1 hour, 16 minutes, 6 secondslook at it from a from a from the perspective of the people that had to handle me and I can say well you know 1 hour, 16 minutes, 14 secondswhat I can I I if I was in their shoes what would I have done and like maybe sometimes I’m like yeah I could probably would have done 1 hour, 16 minutes, 22 secondssame thing but it’s not legal it’s not lawful and so while I can 1 hour, 16 minutes, 29 secondsunderstand it it’s still against the law and the behavior was truly unlawful in 1 hour, 16 minutes, 37 secondsmany respects and so you know that’s just a small part of the picture and I was doing something 1 hour, 16 minutes, 46 secondsuseful you know and so or I thought I was doing something useful and or at least I believed I was doing something 1 hour, 16 minutes, 53 secondsuseful which is I don’t know whether that’s equivalent but you know I can’t imagine what It might be like for people 1 hour, 17 minutes, 2 secondsthat you have no interest in getting them to do something useful to you. They can’t offer you anything. All you need 1 hour, 17 minutes, 9 secondsthem for is something and at the end you can just dispose of them. And that is 1 hour, 17 minutes, 15 secondsthat’s frankly quite terrifying that such a situation could develop. And I’m 1 hour, 17 minutes, 22 secondsbeing clear with with Jesse from the beginning, you know, I’m not what you might call a targeted individual. 1 hour, 17 minutes, 31 seconds if I were or you know it when I the more I’ve learned about them let me say is the more horrified I’ve been because 1 hour, 17 minutes, 41 secondsthere is to there is going to be and definitely a percentage and who could 1 hour, 17 minutes, 48 secondssay like how big that percentage is of people that are genuinely being targeted 1 hour, 17 minutes, 55 secondsby this technology. It’s not you know an artifice of their imagination or for 1 hour, 18 minutes, 1 secondany other reason. It’s real and the purpose behind that is opaque. 1 hour, 18 minutes, 9 secondsAnd you know I was lucky in my sense in my in my situation I genuinely 1 hour, 18 minutes, 17 secondsgenerally rather understood what this was all about. I mean, there were times when I really didn’t, but then it was 1 hour, 18 minutes, 23 secondsnot an operational requirement. I’d had no need to know. And again, I can look back on that and say, “Yeah, that was the right call.” Because actually, had I 1 hour, 18 minutes, 32 secondsknown what was coming down the pipeline, I would have like maybe freaked out. I would have, you know, something could have gone wrong. I just didn’t need to 1 hour, 18 minutes, 40 secondsknow. And so, like, there was an element of like, well, confusion or like a big question mark. And sometimes it felt 1 hour, 18 minutes, 46 secondsvery Yeah. unfair and like odd lots of other things. Um, but for people who have 1 hour, 18 minutes, 55 secondsliterally no idea about why they might have been targeted or why they’ve been singled out because the purpose or 1 hour, 19 minutes, 4 secondseven the general scope of the purpose for that has never been made known to them. Well, there’s not much to hold on 1 hour, 19 minutes, 12 secondsto at that point. And I think that that’s an incredibly frightening frightening situation to be in. And so 1 hour, 19 minutes, 19 secondsyes, that is what I would say is that not only is there no hope to regulate 1 hour, 19 minutes, 26 secondsthe space and as long as it’s never been acknowledged, but also there is that space itself is inherently unlawful. 1 hour, 19 minutes, 38 secondsIt’s like, you know, it’s a lawless place and, you know, some seriously bad things could happen and probably are 1 hour, 19 minutes, 44 secondshappening and yeah, as far as I can see, likely are happening. 1 hour, 19 minutes, 51 secondsJesse, final thoughts with the few seconds we have left. 1 hour, 19 minutes, 55 secondsWell, um, you know, really, we just humanity needs to band together. The 1 hour, 20 minutes, 1 seconddivide and conquer is by design. We all understand the language of love. We all bleed the same underneath. And it’s 1 hour, 20 minutes, 10 secondsimportant that we we take our power back. The other thing is is there are 1 hour, 20 minutes, 16 secondssome things that you can do to help alleviate some of the RF exposure that 1 hour, 20 minutes, 26 secondsyou get. melanin is a is a a great thing to have. the studies have shown that those with less melanin are more 1 hour, 20 minutes, 35 secondssusceptible to these RF emissions and manipulation. 1 hour, 20 minutes, 40 seconds so that’s one aspect and the other aspect is to get these toxins out of you, these amplifiers out of you, the graphine oxide, the silicon, any of these poisonous tox toxins. It’s important to to get them out of you. Yeah, that’s right. And we’ll have a link in the description because we’ve talked about Masterpiece before. to get these toxins out of your body. And you know, for anyone who’s interested in it, do more research on it, but we’ll have a link in the description below. I know many thousands of our viewers have taken it and seen remarkable changes by getting graphine oxide and all these other heavy metals and things out of their body. Um, so we’ll have a link in the description on that as well, but um, just to help anybody. But yeah, getting out, I guess, getting that melanin, getting that vitamin D and just trying to protect yourself from this. Um, but Rafe, I would love to have you back on to do more of a deep dive on this. We could spend I could spend hours on this and we will hopefully at some point. So, thank you for your bravery in coming forward and and sharing what you saw while you were at MI6 and some of these nefarious technologies that have been used on on people around the world. We we we appreciate your bravery on that. Jesse and Rafe, thank thank you to both of you. 1 hour, 21 minutes, 56 secondsThank you, Clayton. Thank you. Cheers. Thank you. Chapter 17: Advanced technology and human impact
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